Winchester Super-X1 bolt buffer

[sillymike]

Just a heads up if anyone need a new bolt buffer for their Super-X1...
Don't bother with the one manufactured by Triple-K.
- It's too thick, the action doesn't lock in the open position
- It's too brittle...

2 shots later...

A quick call to Stu Wright, I've got some of his "neoprene type material" buffers on the way. I could have saved myself some trouble (and $) and see what trap/skeet shooters were using Ho well.

 

[3macs1]

Thanks for posting. I have a couple new originals believe it or not which although they don't look dried out I didnot use and also fitted new ones from
wrightsgunsmiths which work as they should
Cheers

 

[DeadeyeDave]

Are you sure it was too thick? I replaced a buffer a couple of years ago and couldn't get it to seat fully to allow the bolt to lock open. Turned out that the receiver had been peened ever so slightly by the bolt but just enough to prevent it seating fully. A few light passes with a Dremel cleaned it up and the buffer popped right in.

 

[Win/64]

Are you sure it was too thick? I replaced a buffer a couple of years ago and couldn't get it to seat fully to allow the bolt to lock open. Turned out that the receiver had been peened ever so slightly by the bolt but just enough to prevent it seating fully. A few light passes with a Dremel cleaned it up and the buffer popped right in.

Make sure it doesn't pop right out again. I've changed a few of these and have always had to use a Dowel and a small Plastic Mallet to get them to seat properly.

 

[3macs1]

Make sure it doesn't pop right out again. I've changed a few of these and have always had to use a Dowel and a small Plastic Mallet to get them to seat properly.

Are you warming them first and using a little silicone lube. Have never had to pound them in and I have changed quite a few also originals and new ones
Cheers

 

[Win/64]

Are you warming them first and using a little silicone lube. Have never had to pound them in and I have changed quite a few also originals and new ones
Cheers

That almost sounds a little rude... I like doing it at room temp with a little grease on the nipple.

 

[3macs1]

That almost sounds a little rude... I like doing it at room temp with a little grease on the nipple.

Not sure what you mean by rude??. Just sharing how I was shown to do them as far back as when my dad who was a smith bought us three x1's in 1976
I still have four in my collection and have done a few over the years as I imagine you have also. If your way or mine gets the job done with no damage all is good. I just don't like using any form of hammer near guns unless I have to which is why I commented
Also any petroleum based grease will react and degrade your buffers if they are the Polyurethane ones so I have been told. Think the wrights ones are possibly a form of neoprene
Cheers

 

[Win/64]

I'm not hitting them with a Sledge Hammer. Just a tap or two with a Dowel and a Plastic Mallet.

 

[sillymike]

Not sure what you mean by rude??

I guess Win/64 is the 'prude' kind of guy...


The one I got from Triple-K were hard plastic (or so it seemed).
Replaced it the same way I did it last time (about 15-20 years ago). A tab of grease on the nipple, a round dowel and a gentle tap to set it in.

Yes, it seemed "flush" and fully seated. No, the bolt did not lock back. Yes, it snap right off after a shot or two. I should have tried whacking the leftover with a hammer and see if it shattered.


I still got another Triple-K to measure/compare with the Wright's buffers. Should have them sometime next week.

 

[3macs1]

I guess Win/64 is the 'prude' kind of guy...


The one I got from Triple-K were hard plastic (or so it seemed).
Replaced it the same way I did it last time (about 15-20 years ago). A tab of grease on the nipple, a round dowel and a gentle tap to set it in.

Yes, it seemed "flush" and fully seated. No, the bolt did not lock back. Yes, it snap right off after a shot or two. I should have tried whacking the leftover with a hammer and see if it shattered.


I still got another Triple-K to measure/compare with the Wright's buffers. Should have them sometime next week.

According to what I can find the triple K ones are in their words

Our Reproduction Buffer in hard urethane plastic. The gentle tap IMO cracked the nipple more than likely and the initial recoil broke it off. The ones you installed years ago would have been a form of rubber
Cheers

 

[Rod]

I believe the buffers from Wrights are the best ones. . Two new buffers came with my SX-1 when I bought it a few years back and they were the hard plastic ones. . Someone on Shotgun World said to test them with a hammer and if they stay together they're good. . One hit with the hammer and they looked exactly like the picture of Mike's buffer. . Ordered a couple from Wrights and it went in with no problem and been working good. .

Apparently, SX-1 buffers from Nu-Line are the hard plastic ones as well, the same as the ones from Vintage Gun Grips. . Stu Wright is the only option, but if memory is correct, they're expensive little boogers by the time they arrive up here.

 

[3macs1]

You love your Winchesters Rod. Another sweet gun you have there
What are your X1 barrels. Trap??, Full?? , and Mod??. I sold a as new IC barrel out your way here maybe 3 years ago. Cannot remember the buyers handle
Cheers

 

[Rod]

The barrels are: Trap, Modified and Improved Cylinder. . Yes I do love Winchesters; pre-64, pre-war, pre 1899. The SX-1 is the only one that is not pre--64. .

 

[Win/64]

I believe the buffers from Wrights are the best ones. . Two new buffers came with my SX-1 when I bought it a few years back and they were the hard plastic ones. . Someone on Shotgun World said to test them with a hammer and if they stay together they're good. . One hit with the hammer and they looked exactly like the picture of Mike's buffer. . Ordered a couple from Wrights and it went in with no problem and been working good. .

Apparently, SX-1 buffers from Nu-Line are the hard plastic ones as well, the same as the ones from Vintage Gun Grips. . Stu Wright is the only option, but if memory is correct, they're expensive little boogers by the time they arrive up here.

Wow... Winchesters last Handmade Shotgun. Yours looks like it has nice Wood too. Something about that era of Winchesters.