Winchester Unveils New Round that Outperforms the .300 Blackout

[Thomas D'Arcy McGee]

Winchester Unveils New Round that Outperforms the .300 Blackout

http s://www.military.com/kitup/2019/01/22/winchester-unveils-new-round-outperforms-300-blackout.html

 

[patricksbb391]

Rimless .357 Remington Maximum?

 

[B]

I find it hard to believe that no one has blown out the .223 to 9mm before..?

 

[MiG25]

An example of hunting regulations driving cartridge design.

 

[Suther]

There has been a thread on this new cartridge for a few days already.

 

[Wild_Thing]

I find it hard to believe that no one has blown out the .223 to 9mm before..?

Smart idea

 

[blasted_saber]

I do likes its description, and if it takes off and becomes readily available, I could see me getting one.

But boy oy boy is that a pretentious name

"GOT MY 350 LEGEND SHOOTING 150GR EXTREME POINTS BRO"

 

[LUTNIT]

An example of hunting regulations driving cartridge design.

I was under the impression the common US regulation for "shotgun only hunting" was only for straight-walled cartridges of .410 or larger. That's why the .458 SOCOM is so common in lightweight bolt guns; it counts as a "shotgun" under most US hunting regulations. This is .358" so wouldn't fall into the same loophole, would it?

 

[383SB]

I was under the impression the common US regulation for "shotgun only hunting" was only for straight-walled cartridges of .410 or larger. That's why the .458 SOCOM is so common in lightweight bolt guns; it counts as a "shotgun" under most US hunting regulations. This is .358" so wouldn't fall into the same loophole, would it?

There are some states are straight-walled cartridges from .357 on up. Was always under the impression the 458's were popular due to the strait walled hunting restrictions, how and in what state does it become a shotgun because the cartridge is strait? That would make the 45-70, 44 mag, 45 colt rifles are "shotguns" in the US.

 

[LUTNIT]

There are some states are straight-walled cartridges from .357 on up. Was always under the impression the 458's were popular due to the strait walled hunting restrictions, how and in what state does it become a shotgun because the cartridge is strait? That would make the 45-70, 44 mag, 45 colt rifles are "shotguns" in the US.

I've never looked it up but several of my friends who have looked at hunting in the US have. They tell me lots of states are "shotgun only" for hunting but instead of regulating it like Ontario does where they specify shotgun gauges, they just say any straight walled case of .410 or larger.

As far as I am aware the .45-70 does not count as it's a tapered case, not straight.

 

[Brian46]

I was under the impression the common US regulation for "shotgun only hunting" was only for straight-walled cartridges of .410 or larger. That's why the .458 SOCOM is so common in lightweight bolt guns; it counts as a "shotgun" under most US hunting regulations. This is .358" so wouldn't fall into the same loophole, would it?

458 socom is not a straight walled cartridge, therefore not legal to use in those states.

You are thinking 450 Bushmaster