With Winchester belly-up, how long till their ammo lines go too?
- Thread starter mr00jimbo
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They are two completely separate companies. Olin owns the name and licenses it to USRAC to build the guns. Olin makes the ammo. They are alive and well. They closed the US gun plant, but will start up in some other place, likely.
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Good to know. Are there a lot of gun makers going out of business? Ammo makers going out of business?
It's not so much that Winchester went out of business as they closed down an unprofitable plant. Browning owns the rights to Winchester named firearms and it sounds like they will be making them again at some point in the future.
As mentioned, Olin international owns Winchester ammunition and is still manufacturing it.
As mentioned, Olin international owns Winchester ammunition and is still manufacturing it.
JohnC
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The Chinese seem to be getting better all the time at producing items with a significant labour content cheaply. the Japanese did the same thing after WW II until their labor costs got too expensive -now a lot of "Japanese" products are mqanufacuted or assembled in China and other low labor cost economies. For instance the Norinco M-305 receivers you get today seem to be of far better quality than those of the 70s (80s?) and their other "low-tech" goods seem to be gouing the same route. So if a rifle groups well, meets proof testing requirements and is reasonably priced, why does it matter where it's made -assuming you can even find out...
Northman999
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JohnC is right here. When it comes down to it we all basically have a Go/No Go system in our heads on both quality and price. With products like the Norincos out there that barely hitting the shelves and are gone (unless you're that certain retailer flogging M305's for $700.00 to the ignorant), it's clear than many Chinese products are passing our Go test on both quality and price. We can't be scrambling for Norinco firearms and ammo and then turn around and complain about them.
Many Japanese made firearms are good quality, if the Japanese make Winchester rifles, they shoudl be excellent.
High labour costs in North America keep manufacturers looking for other places to make thier products. Many unions have bargained themselves out of jobs altogether. It happened (is happening) in Europe, too.
The owners of the business just decide that it's not worth it, so they close the doors.
High labour costs in North America keep manufacturers looking for other places to make thier products. Many unions have bargained themselves out of jobs altogether. It happened (is happening) in Europe, too.
The owners of the business just decide that it's not worth it, so they close the doors.
I agree that Japanese firearms are of good quality, it's just I get tired of seeing everyhting we use come from off shore.
I also agree that unions drive up the cost of manufacture and are to blame somewhat for the rising imports, but you also have to realize that those high wages are spent here and drive much of the ecomony around us as well as keeping non-union jobs in a higher pay scale, including yours. If the unions drop the pay rate, all pay rates will decrease along with it, including yours.
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