Is anyone else having problems with Win 9mm brass? I've had several once fired cases stick in the sizing/decapping die when the rim tore away in the shell holder. Just wondering if this is common with Win brass or if anyone else has had this problem.
Wnchester 9mm Brass problem
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Not really a similar problem, but I recently purchased 100 brand new Winchester 270 cases and upon sizing them, I found that several would not slide into the shell holder and were obviously out of spec.
Could have been a couple soft cases and/or something sticky on the cases. I have encountered soft brass before, Starline, not WW.
Often my pistol brass gets a quick shot of spray lube when in the bucket. It makes sizing them (through carbide dies) much easier, also because there is a Lee Carbide Factory Crimp die which post sizes. This little bit of lube makes everything run easier/smoother since there are 2 sizing dies on the progressive.
Often my pistol brass gets a quick shot of spray lube when in the bucket. It makes sizing them (through carbide dies) much easier, also because there is a Lee Carbide Factory Crimp die which post sizes. This little bit of lube makes everything run easier/smoother since there are 2 sizing dies on the progressive.
I've had it happen from the first time I started reloading, just like you described. And just yesterday too. The fix I was told by an experienced reloader was I got a tube of Lee sizing lube(3-5.00) put a few blobs on a rag and fold the rag in half and rub it around to spread the lubricant and then put it(the rag) in a margarine tub and toss in a bunch of casings and shake it around. Then proceed. Cheap and easy.
I assume you are using a carbide die. No need to lube cases if you are since said lube has to be wiped off after resizing and slows down the reloading process considerably. Years ago the American Rifleman magazine had an article regarding reloading the 9mm Luger cartridge. They found that Winchester brass allowed the bullet to collapse back into the case; so much so they recommended a case cannelure at the base of the bullet. That report mirrors my experience with Winchester 9mm Luger brass; ALL of it gets deprimed and sent to the recycling center for ca$h.
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Just worn out I guess
In my current 9mm system, I am having trouble with Winchester 9mm brass. Seems that after a couple of firings, the primer pocket enlarges so much that a new Federal SPP primer becomes a sloppy fit.
Easily pried out. Now junk.
I have some Winchester 45acp brass that I have loaded 20 times. 9mm not so long.
In my current 9mm system, I am having trouble with Winchester 9mm brass. Seems that after a couple of firings, the primer pocket enlarges so much that a new Federal SPP primer becomes a sloppy fit.
Easily pried out. Now junk.
I have some Winchester 45acp brass that I have loaded 20 times. 9mm not so long.
"...after a couple of firings, the primer pocket enlarges so much..." Hot loads?
Is your Winchester brass regular brass or their Winclean line?
Shaking cases in a margarine tub won't lube the cases properly. Use a pad or one of the spray lubes.
Is your Winchester brass regular brass or their Winclean line?
Shaking cases in a margarine tub won't lube the cases properly. Use a pad or one of the spray lubes.
Hi Ian
Do you polish your brass?
Are there any burrs inside the die, leaving marks on the brass?
What you describe can be caused by the above.
A way to lubricate the process would be lay the brass down on a cookie sheet and spray with case lube. Tumble in a plastic bag to spread the lube around and reload brass. After reloading, roll them around in a big old sweat shirt to remove excess lube.
I reloaded 9000+ bullets between Oct 07 and June 08, using this method.
Polish, lube, reload, wipe, shoot, repeat.
Do you polish your brass?
Are there any burrs inside the die, leaving marks on the brass?
What you describe can be caused by the above.
A way to lubricate the process would be lay the brass down on a cookie sheet and spray with case lube. Tumble in a plastic bag to spread the lube around and reload brass. After reloading, roll them around in a big old sweat shirt to remove excess lube.
I reloaded 9000+ bullets between Oct 07 and June 08, using this method.
Polish, lube, reload, wipe, shoot, repeat.
Your die may be damaged, or you may have a die that is not in spec. If it is a Lee die, send it back, and they will replace it. I had this problem with 2 Lee dies for 9mm. I now use a Dillon SDB, but I kept the Lee factory crimp die.
I have found the 9mm brass in all makes difficult to get out of the Lee sizing die. Don't have this problem with .40 or .38, also in Lee dies. I remember Gunnar from Armco saying that 9mm can be lubed and it makes for much easier reloading even with carbide dies.
