Woodleigh in the Whelen

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So I acquired a new .35 Whelen to play around with. Looks like fun, all scoped and ready to hit the range. As far as ammo goes, I only managed to find a single box of Hornady Superformance 200gr locally. That's it. So while I try and find another box or two to build up a brass supply and get dialed in with the gun, I thought I'd explore some loads.

Specifically hoping someone has something for Woodleigh Weldcore 275gr bullets and CFE223 powder, but I can be flexible there. Seems like most other middleweight bullets are more difficult to find (not finding much in the way of Nosler/Sierra/Hornady on the shelves in 225/250gr).

I can be flexible on the powder, only asking because my .223 loves 69gr Matchkings launched by CFE223 so I have 8 pounds of it :)
 
from Quickload

Code: 
Cartridge          : [B].35 Whelen[/B]
Bullet             : .358, [B]275, Woodleigh PP [/B]WeldCore 53B
Useable Case Capaci: 60.404 grain H2O = 3.922 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : [B]Hodgdon CFE223[/B]

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   80    49.68   2199    2953   45656   6333     98.9    1.391
-09.0   81    50.23   2220    3009   46899   6386     99.1    1.376
-08.0   82    50.78   2240    3065   48179   6437     99.3    1.362
-07.0   83    51.34   2261    3121   49479   6486     99.4    1.347
-06.0   84    51.89   2281    3177   50863   6533     99.6    1.333
-05.0   85    52.44   2301    3234   52266   6578     99.7    1.319
-04.0   85    52.99   2322    3292   53718   6620     99.8    1.305
-03.0   86    53.54   2342    3349   55213   6661     99.9    1.291
-02.0   87    54.10   2362    3407   56759   6698     99.9    1.278  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   88    54.65   2382    3465   58353   6734    100.0    1.265  ! Near Maximum !
[B] +00.0   89    55.20   2402    3524   59993   6767    100.0    1.251  ! Near Maximum ![/B]
+01.0   90    55.75   2422    3583   61679   6798    100.0    1.238  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   91    56.30   2442    3642   63414   6827    100.0    1.225  ! Near Maximum !
+03.0   92    56.86   2462    3701   65200   6856    100.0    1.213  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   93    57.41   2482    3760   67038   6884    100.0    1.200  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0   93    57.96   2501    3820   68931   6912    100.0    1.187  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     89    55.20   2481    3759   70270   6483    100.0    1.189  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     89    55.20   2285    3189   49825   6888     97.4    1.331
 
todbartell said:
from Quickload

Code: 
Cartridge          : [B].35 Whelen[/B]
Bullet             : .358, [B]275, Woodleigh PP [/B]WeldCore 53B
Useable Case Capaci: 60.404 grain H2O = 3.922 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : [B]Hodgdon CFE223[/B]

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   80    49.68   2199    2953   45656   6333     98.9    1.391
-09.0   81    50.23   2220    3009   46899   6386     99.1    1.376
-08.0   82    50.78   2240    3065   48179   6437     99.3    1.362
-07.0   83    51.34   2261    3121   49479   6486     99.4    1.347
-06.0   84    51.89   2281    3177   50863   6533     99.6    1.333
-05.0   85    52.44   2301    3234   52266   6578     99.7    1.319
-04.0   85    52.99   2322    3292   53718   6620     99.8    1.305
-03.0   86    53.54   2342    3349   55213   6661     99.9    1.291
-02.0   87    54.10   2362    3407   56759   6698     99.9    1.278  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   88    54.65   2382    3465   58353   6734    100.0    1.265  ! Near Maximum !
[B] +00.0   89    55.20   2402    3524   59993   6767    100.0    1.251  ! Near Maximum ![/B]
+01.0   90    55.75   2422    3583   61679   6798    100.0    1.238  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   91    56.30   2442    3642   63414   6827    100.0    1.225  ! Near Maximum !
+03.0   92    56.86   2462    3701   65200   6856    100.0    1.213  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   93    57.41   2482    3760   67038   6884    100.0    1.200  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0   93    57.96   2501    3820   68931   6912    100.0    1.187  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     89    55.20   2481    3759   70270   6483    100.0    1.189  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     89    55.20   2285    3189   49825   6888     97.4    1.331
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Many thanks! Looks alright. 275 @ 2400 would be an absolute hammer and within the impact velocity window of the Woodleigh.
 
WhelanLad said:
the 225 an 250s are pretty swell in the whelen.
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True, but CFE223 is being touted as a super-powder for the Whelen, performing better with heavier bullets. That 55.2gr load looks tasty at 2400fps and still below 60k psi. And Tradex has a few packages of them in stock, which nowadays is basically a sign from the divine.
 
I shoot the 300gr Woodleigh RNSP in my 23" 338-06. 56.2grs Ramshot Hunter pushes them to 2200 fps, pressures are moderate (approx 55k psi). I can go higher, but they shoot accurate and I don't use them unless hunting in heavy timber. The Whelen should push the 275gr at least to 2400
 
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