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Hi all, I need some advice. I have an option on a Mossberg 100 ATR Night Train with a 4x16 Barska scope. It's hardly been fired. Is $500 too much and is this a good starting point for precision shooting?
 
I suggest holding out for something that can be upgraded. Any rifle can be upgraded, but aftermarket support for Mossberg is virtually nil. Barrels, stocks, triggers....
That said, if you dig that rifle and it's what your budget will allow, go for it. Enjoy it and learn everything you can with it.

Good luck

FYI, a Stevens 200 can be had within the same budget, it's a lower priced Savage just waiting for upgrades.
 
I suggest holding out for something that can be upgraded. Any rifle can be upgraded, but aftermarket support for Mossberg is virtually nil. Barrels, stocks, triggers....
That said, if you dig that rifle and it's what your budget will allow, go for it. Enjoy it and learn everything you can with it.

Good luck

FYI, a Stevens 200 can be had within the same budget, it's a lower priced Savage just waiting for upgrades.



I would also recommend a Stevens. You start with an affordable rifle that you can upgrade along the way to a very nice, good shooting rifle.
 
Cabelas Canada has Savage 11/111 hunters on sale currently and the come with a scope. Just 3-9 for the scope but you could remove and sell it and get a 4-16. $419.99
 
I seem to recall reading that the nightrain was very good value for the money, of course all of you fellows have shot the mossberg before and are giving this fellow your view points from having shot the mossberg rifle right?
Do you know if this is the II model
If the guy has $500 to spend on an accurate piece that is scoped and ready to go he she be encouraged to do so. IMHO. FS
 
Buddy of mine bought one 2 years back, and ended up getting rid of it not too long after. Nothing but problems
 
Another vote for passing on the mossberg. I've never shot it, hell never even held one but I know a lot of guys who shoot LR (out to a mile) and i don't know anyone who owns a night train much less uses it for even beginner precision shooting. What does that tell you?

I'm not knocking a budget rifle but the important thing here is what 9x19 said, aftermarket support is near non existent. Unless your buying a high end Alberta Tactical Rifle or some other already tuned LR rig you're going to need to upgrade the rifle and its components along the way. That means possible barrel swap, new trigger, stock etc. Not saying you need any or all of that at the beginning but you will eventually want it if you play the precision game.

I started out with a stevens 200 in .223. Put a decent scope on it and learned the basics. It did me well for a couple of years for general LR (read 2-500 yrds) shooting. This year I upgraded to a Rem 700 in .308. I bought a good scope, tuned the trigger, got an after market HS precision stock and bedded it. This is just how the precision game works. You don't need all that to shoot well but it certainly tightens the groups up. And if you seriously interested in precision, you'll want every advantage you can get through aftermarket components. The moss berg just doesn't support that.

Pick up a used Rem or savage, both are great rifles for a LR rig and both can be upgraded to your hearts content with all the goodies you could ever want. Even a stevens is a good option because it takes almost all the savage parts.

Again, i've never held/shot/seen a moss berg so it could be gods gift to rifles BUT a hunch tells me that there are far better options even at the budget level.
 
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I have a problem with the name...but it may fit.
 
I seem to recall reading that the nightrain was very good value for the money, of course all of you fellows have shot the mossberg before and are giving this fellow your view points from having shot the mossberg rifle right?
Do you know if this is the II model
If the guy has $500 to spend on an accurate piece that is scoped and ready to go he she be encouraged to do so. IMHO. FS

As some have already mentioned, there are better options within his price range, and those options have long term upgrade potential.

I would also recommend the Stevens 200. $400 for a rifle/scope combo and $100 for a Timney trigger, and you're good to go until you want to upgrade it.
 
ill start by saying that iv never shot one but,

those nighttrains have to be the ugliest rifles iv ever seen, if im thinking of the same one with the giant 50 cal style break on it.

those are just a gimmick for guys that want a tactical looking rifle, if your serious about precision shooting I would get something that's got a reputation for shooting well, not just "looks like a sniper rifle" that will only impress your friends that know nothing about guns

i don't think you can go wrong with a stevens or savage or rem 700 in .223 or .308. if you want to shoot the crap out of it on a budget get the .223

thats just my opinion im more of a function over cosmetics kind of thinker, I dont really see the point of all the tacticool stuff on the market today unless there is a weight or ergonomics benefit
 
Never shot the "Night Train" but I handled one a couple times. Felt even worse than a 770 as far as I was concerned. They were selling them brand new for under $500 at the time to try and move them off the shelves. Isn't this the same rifle that got tagged with the moniker the "Trainwreck"

As has been said, stick with an apgradeable option. If you look around you can get a lot for that same $500, that will last you for years.
 
I've seen Cabelas advertising Rem 700 SPS packages with a 4-16x for $499, I'd be all over that in an instant. Lots of upgrade options but it should be a fair shooter out of the box. I'd take that over a Night Train any day.
 
From what I understand if you have to go real cheep go for a savage ! Best bang for the buck ... Or why not go old school mosin nagant or Swedish Mauser why not a lee enfield ... Excuse my spelling
 
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