Would a Gunsmith Really do Such a #### Job?

I got a gun in a trade a while back back. The trigger group was apparently smoothed out by a "gunsmith". The thing is is that I can't tell the difference between it and basically an exact copy of the gun(DA Grizz and Norc HP9).

Not only that, the work looks like it was done with a Dremel and the "smith" never bothered to smooth it all out. Pretty much ground a few spots down and put it back together. I very much doubt the work was done by anyone qualified. Is there any way to find out besides contacting the supposed gunsmith? I would post picture but my cell phone likely wouldn't show it.

Hmmm, is this the same guy that didn't mess up the shell latches in your grizz? It's funny how you snaped at me that this guy is not bubba and now your #####ing about his sh!ty work...........
 
I would have to agree. The problem I have is that he lied repeatedly about both the work done and who did it. A trigger job by a qualified gunsmith is at the least, a selling point right? Instead I have nothing, work done by nobodies is a bad thing IMO. Seems quite a few others agree. This has been a learning experience at least :rolleyes:.

So let me get this straight, you posted all that b.s about a site sponser and it was a sh!tty smith's falt. If I was you I would be puting up a I'm sorry thread.
 
The trigger group had nothing to do with that. That problem with the gun could only arise from a bent shell latch being installed. Unless you went through the trouble of ripping it out, bending it then neatly staking it back in. This gun is just turning out to be a pile of bad luck. I actually kept pretty much everything but the receiver when I sent the gun back. Thanks for being you though.
 
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I opened my my business , specializing in the M14 type rifles based on the number of messed up rifles i was seeing that had been "custom" tuned and tweaked by a certain outfit in Alberta. I can not and will not mention names but there are some folks out there working under the wings of reputable businesses that have no business going anywhere near a customers firearm.
The dremel tool hack jobs i have seen on several rifles and expensive aluminum chasis stocks for the m14 make me sick that someone out there is chargeing "gunsmith" rates for such hackery.
I take pride in my work and confidently call myself an M14 specialist and make no claims to be a general gunsmith. Some guys learn to be skillful with working on and tuning certain firearms and they do exceptional work BUT get them outside thier comfort zone...... and things start to go sideways.

Beware, get references, KNOW who you are dealing with and what thier experience is with the particular firearm you are needing work done on.
 
I got a gun in a trade a while back back. The trigger group was apparently smoothed out by a "gunsmith". The thing is is that I can't tell the difference between it and basically an exact copy of the gun(DA Grizz and Norc HP9).

Not only that, the work looks like it was done with a Dremel and the "smith" never bothered to smooth it all out. Pretty much ground a few spots down and put it back together. I very much doubt the work was done by anyone qualified. Is there any way to find out besides contacting the supposed gunsmith? I would post picture but my cell phone likely wouldn't show it.

just checked his trader rating. An interesting new one. He has apparently sold someone some broken parts as new. What is the etiquette on busting someone for lying? Has it been too long (3 months)? I always thought I was getting shafted, if this is really a BS job then I will be pissed.

OK, not too hard to figure out who you're talking about. I'm sure he's aware of this thread too, yet won't show himself. Meaning he knows he screwed you on this one and you should call him out and make it clear to everyone who he is.

I'm not very happy to hear there's someone like this among us. He should take the whole trade back, compensate you for your troubles, embarrassment and waste of time and pipe up here with an apology. No exception.

If this doesn't happen by the end of the week-end, you should shame him publicly in this thread. Maybe I'll even do it for you. There's no excuse why this should have dragged out this far without him stepping up to the plate.

We all drop the ball at times, what makes a difference is how quickly it's recovered and made the situation right again and then some. With the ratings I see under his name, he doesn't give a s**t one way or the other.

As for you, you'd think that dealing with someone with 4 negative feedbacks and 1 neutral, you'd know better than to trade with him. Not too bright ... wake the f**k up and quit encouraging these people to rip other members off in the future. Who know how many more he's screwed that haven't posted any rating for fear of retaliation.
 
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An experienced gunsmiths don't use a dremmel, they use hand files and sheer skill.

Dremmel use should be your first indication of a hack. Stay away from them.
 
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I appreciate the enthusiasm easy but I am still dealing with it ATM. I don't expect anything from him. He really seems to be quite a scumbag from some PMs I have gotten. He sure fooled me. I didn't notice his rating was such s**t. I didn't give it a good look and at the time that fresh neg rating wasn't there. I should have gone with my gut and called bulls**t the instant I gave that trigger group a good look. I blame myself the most!

PS from the PMs I have gotten and the posts in this thread there are plenty of these types out there! I had 3 fellas PM asking for more details as they thought it might be the same guy. He wasn't but it goes to show that the ratio of scammers and scumbags are just as high in this hobby as any other. It's really depressing given the way things are going for us all.
 
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An experienced gunsmiths don't use a dremmel, they use hand files and sheer skill.

Dremmel use should be your first indication of a hack. Stay away from them.

That's right. All experienced gunsmiths never or very seldom use Dremel. They use Foredom which is much more powerful than Dremel and has a lot of more destructive power. Of course, they use skills, knowledge, hand files, stones and many, many other tools, jiggs and fixtures.

By the way, could you please name one well known and recognized gunsmith in Canada or USA who agrees with your statement?

:cheers: Kazimier
 
It is done. I will certainly take a loss. It has shown me to take no one's word. It's all apparently my fault for being such a tool. What the f**k good is it being nice to people when you just get s**t on for your troubles???

I cannot blame for feeling this way but in many years of being in this sport I have that by far the majority of other members are honest & trustworthy. Try not to let one ahole person put you off the others.

It appears that at least one person knows who you are referring to , even though you have had the good sense not to mention names.
Remember, what comes around, goes around.
 
That's right. All experienced gunsmiths never or very seldom use Dremel. They use Foredom which is much more powerful than Dremel and has a lot of more destructive power. Of course, they use skills, knowledge, hand files, stones and many, many other tools, jiggs and fixtures.

By the way, could you please name one well known and recognized gunsmith in Canada or USA who agrees with your statement?

:cheers: Kazimier

... on a trigger job? Give your head a shake and read the first post. :)
 
... on a trigger job? Give your head a shake and read the first post. :)

After reading your statement my question is very legitimate. Your answer indicates that you have a very big mouth, very little knowledge and a lot to say on every subject.

I rest my case.

:cheers: Kazimier
 
Easy knows whats up..............
I have my doubts about "b" this gun has been discused before. The last time it was canams falt.........
After reading your statement my question is very legitimate. Your answer indicates that you have a very big mouth, very little knowledge and a lot to say on every subject.

I rest my case.

:cheers: Kazimier
 
After reading your statement my question is very legitimate. Your answer indicates that you have a very big mouth, very little knowledge and a lot to say on every subject.

I rest my case.

:cheers: Kazimier

Pardon? What did I ever do you? You certainly don't know me, or what I do. Let's all get along.

Maybe I should have specifically said experienced gunsmiths don't use a dremmel on a trigger job, I thought that was understood that's what the issue was by the opening post.

Take a look at following thread http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330812 and the photos shown as an example of what a dremmel does where a file should have been.

Now hear this from the guy with the big mouth ... "put down the gun and step away from the dremmel".
 
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Easy knows whats up..............
I have my doubts about "b" this gun has been discused before. The last time it was canams falt.........

Just stop posting in my threads ok? You have proven what an immature dink you are with your childish games insulting people and throwing ###ual slurs about members in your sig line. If you had any reading comprehension skills you would realize how dumb you are. Seriously, read that thread again. Or maybe have someone read it for you, it won't hurt your head as much. Notice how you are the only one beaking off about this? Two very seperate problems that have nothing to do with each other outside of my s**tty luck.

Back on topic, I would agree with easy. I don't think using a Dremel would always be bad thing though assuming the man using it knows what to do and where to do the work.
 
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Armafix hit the nail on the head. Precision work is not done with a Dremel tool. Jigs, fixtures and stoning is the order of the day for a quality trigger job. Although basic smoothing is within the realm of most people, with caution...just never alter sear angles, disconnects, etc, unless you truly know your craft.

It is easy to remove metal, difficult to add it.

Stoning is a an art form...any dink can run a Dremel...and f**k stuff up.;)
 
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Look bud, it is not two seperate problems and here is why,
You bought a USED gun that has been worked buy a hack, and got burned.I'm very awere of where the trigger group is on this firearm. In the last thread you stated that it was a licenced gun smith that did this work to the gun and snaped that "he was not buba".SOMONE WHO DID NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING WORKED ON THIS GUN.Who knows what this moron did to your gun. I don't let the sqeegee kid's fix my truck 'cause they are not mecanics, see where I'm going with this.
Oh, and don't be so thin skined or stop contradicting yourself if you don't like it when pepole call you on it. As for my sig line and what I post, use the ignore button, sweet heart. It my keep some of that sand out.
Just stop posting in my threads ok? You have proven what an immature dink you are with your childish games insulting people and throwing ###ual slurs about members in your sig line. If you had any reading comprehension skills you would realize how dumb you are. Seriously, read that thread again. Or maybe have someone read it for you, it won't hurt your head as much. Notice how you are the only one beaking off about this? Two very seperate problems that have nothing to do with each other outside of my s**tty luck.

Back on topic, I would agree with easy. I don't think using a Dremel would always be bad thing though assuming the man using it knows what to do and where to do the work.
 
Thanks for proving me right TMBH. You obviously failed to take my advice as you still don't have a clue what you are talking about. The gun is not used, and at the time in the other thread I was relaying the information given to me. The two problems have nothing to do with each other. The fact the work done was not done by a smith is the purpose of this thread. Nothing is broken or f**ked up, I was just lied to and I am pissed off. Again something that is obviously lost on you. I am not going to indulge you anymore. I really would appreciate it if you went away now so grown ups can talk.

This thread is pretty much done anyway though I suppose. I got screwed and just wanted to let everyone know. This isn't even remotely canam's fault, or the factory's (this time). It is mine for trusting someone and not going with my gut. I will just keep the gun as I don't even think it is worth selling unless I pretty much give it away.

PS I am starting to doubt that anyone but him did the work. He admitted to dremeling the shell carrier. The stock has had a chunk dremeled right by the safety too.....
 
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wow, B im sorry your having bad luck, and even for the bad luck you are having on here. Some people think they know it all/and are better than the rest of us and need to take their frustration out on someone on the internet. because we all know fighting on the internet is like running in the special olympics. It doesn't matter who wins, your still retarded. tmbh obviouslly offers nothing of value to this thread, or cgn. Judging by his/her grammar, it looks as though he/she is very young and has no experience.
 
Glockur,
Nice try but I just don't like dishonest crooks trying to rip the guys on here off......... he is a liar. As for me being young and inxperienced try again........check out my trader rating, I offer what I can. Brandon has clearly stated in another thread that this gun was worked on by a licenced gun smith and now the guy is a hack.
Why? you may ask. Because b wants somthing for free.
 
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