would this be legal ?

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ok i know about hellfire and other triger mounted bull#### being prohib but this is diffrent since:

1) it work

2) no interaction whit the triger


so can one of our importing guru tell me what he thinks

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and yes i know stock looks like crap but that can be fixed later , anyway its probably prohib but its a neat idea anyway :runaway:
 
Just my 2 cents.... but I would think that it's covered by this:


Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 9


1. Any electrical or mechanical device that is designed or adapted to operate the trigger mechanism of a semi-automatic firearm for the purpose of causing the firearm to discharge cartridges in rapid succession.
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The device is causing the gun to move and your finger is in essence "bump-firing" the rifle causing the firearm to "discharge cartridges rapidly".....
I dont think I would want to go to court to prove that it was not manipulating the trigger.....
 
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As much as I agree that this stock does not actually directly affect the trigger, it was designed to provide for a mechanically assisted bump fire. I suspect the powers that be would insist that it falls within the description of the former prohibited weapon order #9.
 
Simple and clever system. I'm pretty sure the designer of this device spent more time interpreting the law to find a way arount it than he spent on the device itself...
 
Similar to the 7615 mags I think most of us can see what the RCMP response would consist of however it'd be interested in the answer regardless.

Obviously once they saw it they'd do anything to have it fall under prohibited devices.
 
But as of yet it doesnt fall into the full-auto class in the states,so i dont think it does here either...Its a loophole right now..
Questar would have the answer for this..
 
If the manufacturer of the device carefully choose his words in the documentation papers provided, maybe that could be accepted. Remember that the only argument they had about the 7615 mags was that the rifle was advertised as being able to accept AR-15 magazines (or something like that)

If they write "this device simulates fully automatic fire", then we're royally screwed, but if they write "this device helps getting a faster follow-up shot", we may stand a chance...:rolleyes:
 
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(Ronin) said:
But as of yet it doesnt fall into the full-auto class in the states,so i dont think it does here either...Its a loophole right now..
Questar would have the answer for this..
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Yes but hellfire triggers were a loophole there for years. Not up here.

If they write "this device simulates fully automatic fire", then we're royally screwed, but if they write "this device helps getting a faster follow-up shot", we may stand a chance...
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Who are we trying to kid.....
 
The firer in the video did not remove his finger from the trigger after the first shot fired. The firearm continued to fire until the magazine was empty. That meets most peoples' definition of a fully automatic firearm, without any attempt to nuance the language in the books. Go ahead, push your luck. I have more winnable battles to fight.
 
Just looks like a spring loaded stock to me. I wonder if it can be controlled? In the video all he does is keep emptying the mags I don't see him firing bursts. So if emptying a mag is your cup of tea it's probably just easier to learn how to bump fire with a standard stock. It may be a loophole I don't know considering it has nothing to do with the trigger. Try buying one and see what happens. You could always say it's a recoil reducing stock which basically it is.
 
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If the manufacturer of the device carefully choose his words in the documentation papers provided, maybe that could be accepted. Remember that the only argument they had about the 7615 mags was that the rifle was advertised as being able to accept AR-15 magazines (or something like that)

If they write "this device simulates fully automatic fire", then we're royally screwed, but if they write "this device helps getting a faster follow-up shot", we may stand a chance...:rolleyes:
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Why not call it a recoil system?:)
 
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The firer in the video did not remove his finger from the trigger after the first shot fired.
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That's irrelevant. I don't remove my finger from the trigger after every shot.

That things that counts is this: In one steady pull are multiple bullets fired?
The answer is no. The trigger resets after every shot. You must oul the trigger one for every shot fired.

Think of it this way, if you moved your finger really fast back and forth would that be illegal? No. All that is happening is the gun is moving back and forth rapidly instead of your finger.

In my expert opinion (what ever that's worth) I would call it legal.
 
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