WW 1 British and German bayonet’s price

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Looking for the price on a World War I British 1907 bayonet for the mark 3 Lee enfield also price of a bayonet for the GEW 98 German Mauser
 
Prices vary greatly depending on what you My 1907’s I bought from $80 to $$390. Some are scarce and demand a higher price. Also depends how bad you want it.
I don’t have the Germans but they have so many different types and some extremely rare and into the thousands.
I’ve been collecting bayonets lately. Mainly 1907 but finding a few for other military surplus. Been looking at prices on stuff lately.
No way I could even give a general price. Condition, year, maker, country and special markings can affect the price. How common or how rare going to change the price.
A Remington 1907 is worth more than double of say a Sanderson of the same year being in the same condition just due to amount made. Remington are not common with only 100000 made.
Without knowing what you have or are going after I can’t give a guess at price.
Pictures would help.
 
Everybody is looking for sharpened bayonets, due to their increased value.
But...But, Ijust purchase an M8 for my Garand and i bought it to use a bit (I want to kill moose with the Garand and use the bayonet to skin) but the next show vendor I showed it to proclaimed "dont sharpen fcn the thing, itll decrease the value by 1/2"....Im pretty sure more than a few issued bayonets were sharpened by the GI's that carried them for more than general enjoyment.
 
Most importantly, are they sharp?

Everybody is looking for sharpened bayonets, due to their increased value.



Seriously how can you expect to get correct information without any pictures?

I have a car what is it worth?
What are you talking about. Most collectors won’t touch a sharpened bayonet. 99% of them were done post service not in service.
 
How long is a piece of string?

Lee Enfield 1907 bayonets have a ballpark of $0 for an absolute tomato stake to $2500+ for rare variants, manufacturers, early hooked quillion examples, or trials bayonets, etc.

The same applies to bayonets that fit the Gew 98, of which there are literally dozens of "correct" models.

Do you want an 98 a/A, 98 n/A, 1884/98, 98/02, 98/05 a/A, 98/05 n/A, 89/98 II, sawbacks of all models above, ersatz models, pioneer models, prototypes, conversions of earlier bayonets, captured bayonets made to fit, crank handles?

Price can range from a couple hundred dollars to thousands, depending what you need.

There are many "correct" bayonets for a Mauser 1898.

Determine what you are searching for, and then I suggest browsing eBay to get a ballpark idea of pricing. :)
 
100%, sharpened bayonets means post service with the exemption of a few documented examples (such as some Aussie units). That being said unless you have direct provenance (unlikely) you have to assume it was done post service.

Bayonets are supposed to be dull, doesn’t cut into bone and get stuck.

You might have read my post, but you sure didn't comprehend it.

Very sad indeed.
 
Bayonets are supposed to be dull, doesn’t cut into bone and get stuck.
Not sure i buy that, it goes against everything a bow hunter is taught when buying broadheads...sharpness kills. To my way of thinking a dull bayonet could push a bleed-out vein away instead of slicing it, just poking a hole in the soft tissue it encounters...
 
A dull blade rips flesh. Taking longer to heal which takes a soldier out of battle longer plus the extra people to care for him. A sharp blade will cut bone and cartilage instead of ripping. If a sharp blade cuts bone on the way in the bone can catch and hold the bayonet. Seconds count in battle and if your struggling trying to get it out you can’t defend yourself against the guy behind the one your blade is stuck in.
The military’s of many nations have done experiments on corpses and also from battlefield experience. I spent some time on the internet researching why bayonets are dull. Found it interesting.
I started collecting Lee Enfield 1907’s about a year ago and I have learned a lot and still a lot more to learn. And I picked up a few bayonets for my other surplus rifles.
Dull blades basically cause more damage requiring longer to heal. A lot more people are wounded in battle than actually killed.
 
Not sure i buy that, it goes against everything a bow hunter is taught when buying broadheads...sharpness kills. To my way of thinking a dull bayonet could push a bleed-out vein away instead of slicing it, just poking a hole in the soft tissue it encounters...
Your not actively trying to pull out the broadhead in combat though.

Dull bayonets don’t cut into bones, they break it or glance off it. You have the weight of the rifle behind you as well so penetration isn’t a problem. Some bayonets don’t even have edges, like the 1886 Lebel bayonets or Mosin Nagant bayonets. It is a stabbing weapon not a cutting weapon.
 
I have seen many pictures and a few videos of bayonets being sharpened during WW1, WW2 and beyond.

It was even mandated in some orders to troops before going into battle. British List of Changes (LoC) 9019, dated 23 April 1897, specifically refers to instructions regarding the sharpening of the Pattern 1888 Mark I sword-bayonet.

Key details regarding this LoC include:
  • Sharpening Instructions: It specifies that the sharpening of the blade should commence gradually, 4 inches from the crosspiece to a sharp edge at 6 inches, and continue to the point.
  • Context: This LoC, along with others (10559, 12860, etc.), provided instructions for sharpening bayonets before troops proceeded on active service.
  • Blade Modification: It notes that care should be taken not to alter the outer figure of the blade during this process.
The P-1888 Mark I was designed for the Magazine Lee-Metford (MLM) and later the Magazine Lee-Enfield (MLE) rifles.

And Canadian Ross Bayonets were sharpened while in service.


Ross bayonets (specifically the Mark II and modified variants) were frequently sharpened in service during the First World War.

While originally produced with a dull "butter knife" or rounded point, they were often modified both by unit armorers in the UK or in the field to have a sharper spear point for better penetration and cutting/slashing ability in trench warfare.

Many surviving Ross bayonets today show signs of this "service sharpening," which was first thought by many from later, non-military modifications.






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Australians sharpening their Bayonets WW1

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Germans also sharpened their bayonets. This is from a 1871 Mauser bayonet being sharpened in the field.

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British among others still sharpen their issue bayonets.
 
Most importantly, are they sharp?

Everybody is looking for sharpened bayonets, due to their increased value.

!!!!! I was kidding !!!!!!

Seriously how can you expect to get correct information without any pictures.
If you would possess at least the most rudimentary reading and comprehension skills you should know by now that it was a joke.


Oh boy, what did I start here?
 
Most importantly, are they sharp?

Everybody is looking for sharpened bayonets, due to their increased value.



Seriously how can you expect to get correct information without any pictures?

I have a car what is it worth?
More like decreased value. Unless like posted above re: documented sharpened.
 
Your not actively trying to pull out the broadhead in combat though.

Dull bayonets don’t cut into bones, they break it or glance off it. You have the weight of the rifle behind you as well so penetration isn’t a problem. Some bayonets don’t even have edges, like the 1886 Lebel bayonets or Mosin Nagant bayonets. It is a stabbing weapon not a cutting weapon.
Well, Im not gonna stab a moose with mine LOL...but I do want to skin one with it after I shoot it with my Garand.
 
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