ww2 german helmet rivnuts? wtf?

[killer1963daddy]

hope i get some answers, i acquired a "ww2" german helmet, did some research, believe its a 1918 model re-issued during ww2,
my question is, what are the two "rivnuts" for above the temples? the ones on my helmet dont appear to be threaded, but a previous owner had "restored" it and they may be full of paint..
i have found some helmets have them and some dont, even in differant styles and dates of production.
chime in if you know...

 

[Logan_Lamothe]

They are to attach a shield plate, to give guys on watch more protection from bullets/shrapnel. I don't remember if they ever were used in numbers or not.

 

[Coyote Ugly]

Those lugs on the WW1 German Helmet always did look like a place where you would attach 100,000 Volt electrical cables to jump start Frankenstein!

 

[greendoh]

It's to attach the brow plate - the "STIRNPANZER" - designed for trench raiding parties and snipers, but rarely used. 50,000 produced vs 7 million or so helmets.

 

[killer1963daddy]

wow! thats what i love about this site!
i thought mabey they were for bolting on a set of horns, so i could wear it while cruisin my hog......oh yah i have a "77 honda 70...lol

 

[Nabs]

Those re-issued helmets are really cool, plenty of history to fill a book.

 

[LawrenceN]

They were also used to attach a sniper's face plate. It was similar to brow plate pictured, but it covered the face not the forehead. It had a small rectangular slit cut ahead of the right eye for aiming.

 

[Jwirecom109]

 

[killer1963daddy]

man, guys had thicker necks back then!

 

[ben hunchak]

Man was I wrong, I thought that was a WW1 thing only.

 

[ciphery]

It's to attach the brow plate - the "STIRNPANZER" - designed for trench raiding parties and snipers, but rarely used. 50,000 produced vs 7 million or so helmets.

X2 I came a bit late in the conversation but that is exactly what I was going to say.

 

[bellero]

I've learned something new today. I always wondered what those two posts were for.

 

[greendoh]

http://4.bp.########.com/-ULHbMjdyp64/TxQAfoEepII/AAAAAAAACU8/IUZToymOV_8/s640/Zeitbilder%252520-%252520Armor%252520001.jpg

If you wanted you could wear it in conjunction with SAPPENPANZER armour for the complete protective package.

Something like interceptor body armour, but with medieval materials

 

[Coyote Ugly]

How effective was the armour plate for the belly and the mellon? Or was it? Not used in WW2.

Wouldn't you get whiplash or a broken neck taking a shot(s) to the helmet plate, especially if it were sustained MG fire (providing the bullet didn't just penetrate armour and helmet)?

 

[killer1963daddy]

i am thinkin if you caught a round in the forehead it would ring your bell for sure!
i dont really think it would stop a 7.62x54r do you?
the fact that the hemet alone is heavy, the added weight, i guess thats why they didnt take hold

 

[Bazzoka_Joe]

How effective was the armor plate for the belly and the melon? Or was it? Not used in WW2.

Wouldn't you get whiplash or a broken neck taking a shot(s) to the helmet plate, especially if it were sustained MG fire (providing the bullet didn't just penetrate armor and helmet)?

it wont broke your neck a bullet doesn't have the mass and i don't think that could stop a direct hit probably good against the shrapnel .