WWI & WWII .303 Cdn. Enfield training rounds

[Steve1987]

Hi,

A friend gave me what I think are Canadian .303 Enfield training rounds. All five of them were on a very corroded old stripper clip. The rounds appear to be in pretty good condition.

Three are dated 1942, and are crimped.

Two are dated 1914. Not crimped, I'm not even entirely sure these are dummy rounds?!

WWII dated:

WWI dated:

Can someone school me on these? Are they common? Thanks in advance!

-Steve

 

[purple]

Yup, they are the real thing, but I'm not so sure about the 1914 ones which appear to contain an expended primer. I got a pee-pot full of these 20 yrs ago and still flog them at gunshows where they seem to be quite popular. I don't see many others for sale nowadays. My WW1 dated ones are dated 1915 and later and feature the spitzer type bullet with a crimped case. The WW2 dated ones are like yours. I have a lot of the early '20s dated ones available which are also crimped with the spitzer style bullet.

 

[Steve1987]

Yup, they are the real thing, but I'm not so sure about the 1914 ones which appear to contain an expended primer. I got a pee-pot full of these 20 yrs ago and still flog them at gunshows where they seem to be quite popular. I don't see many others for sale nowadays. My WW1 dated ones are dated 1915 and later and feature the spitzer type bullet with a crimped case. The WW2 dated ones are like yours. I have a lot of the early '20s dated ones available which are also crimped with the spitzer style bullet.

Thanks for the info, I'm also not sure about the 1914's... Perhaps these were an early attempt at training rounds before the 1915 ones you have were produced? I can't hear any powder inside. Hopefully someone can confirm on the 1914's, these really aren't my area of expertise.

-Steve

 

[37patt]

The 1914 dated drill cartridges appear to be the MK II variety, however having said that, the MK II listed in my book looks to NOT have a primer in it.
It's very possible that it was an expedient version using empty casings.

Will have to look further into it - very interesting.

 

[Nabs]

I have some in their original wrap and they are 1915 to 1926 dated Mk VII training rounds and aer DAC, C broad arrow marked. The only difference I can remember is that they have red paint in the side cut outs.

 

[purple]

Yes, mine have the red paint in the body crimps. I also had some Brit made ones which were identical to the Canadian DA made ones but for the headstamps.

 

[Baribal]

My guess is that for whatever reason someone have installed a primer on that 1914 case. None of mine have a primer. Some WWI Mk VII cases were fitted with Mk VI bullets to save the Mk VII bullets for live ammo. My earliest DAC Mk VII (live, loaded ammo) is dated 1913.

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