WWII 8MM ammo...

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What's the going rate for WWII German 8mm boxed ammo and 100 belted these days? The belt includes tracers every fifth round.
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angrysoldier said:
im sitting on a box of 1932 turkish made 8 mm. 1400 rounds in the case in bandolers on stripper clips.
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Be very cautious in using this ammo in your gun. Some of the older 8mm Turkish ammo had significant issues due to the propellant changing it's ballistic nature over extended time in storage and could have catastrophic consequences. Phil.
 
angrysoldier said:
Want to buy it phil??? not the first crate ive bought and it all shoots well.
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I am not interested but thanks. This was just a caution to you based on my past experience with some of this similar ammo that was pulled from sale years ago as Canadian testing as the explosives branch found significant issues. I personally would not risk my guns or safety with this age of ammunition no matter what previous results I have had. Similar rounds have destroyed guns and injured shooters in the past. Sorry I don't have more specific info so please be care full. Phil.
 
I would shoot the Turkish ammo in a k98 no problem, I was hoping to pick some up but then didn't hear back from the seller. I wish the bandolier and clipped ammo was more common, nothing is more convenient it seems
 
As I posted on another thread a couple days ago, Turkish surplus isn't unsafe it just isn't the 7.92x57 most people think it is. Here is my sum up from that other thread.

"As mentioned I felt I would clarify the ammo a bit more. The idea that Turkish 8mm Mauser is overpressure and dangerous has been spread around by people who don't know what they are talking about and lack understanding as to what the round is.

The Turkish 8mm round is based off the WWI 7.92x57 round also called Patrone 'S' ('S' standing for Spitzer aka pointed in German). This round was a 154grn flat-based spitzer .323 bullet travelling at roughly 2880 ft/sec. The Turkish never updated to the later Patrone 's.S.' round which pretty much everyone else did (this being the 198grn boat-tail spitzer .323 bullet at roughly 2490 ft/sec).

Now what this means for civilian shooters is pretty much all semi-automatic 7.92x57 rifles (8mm Mauser) were chambered for the Patrone 's.S.' not Patrone 'S' which would generate a significantly different pressure cerve and potentially destroy semi-automatic firearms (and it has). This is what caused people to believe that Turkish 8mm is dangerous, simply because uneducated people used the wrong ammo in the firearm (think of it being the same as shooting Swiss 7.5x55 GP-11 ammo though a Swiss 1889 rifle in 7.5x53.5 GP-90, it generally will chamber, and it will explode as it wasn't designed for that type of pressure).

What this means is if you have a M98 action in good condition you should be fine. If it is a Turkish Mauser that is actually the ammo the sights would be regulated for (same thing for Gewehr 98s and the original Kar 98s). I personally wouldn't use it in a Commission 88/05 rifle even though it was done as they weren't the strongest rifle action to begin with (and there were documented cases of them blowing up in Turkish service as well as German service, I recommend reading up on the Commission 88 rifles and doing a ton of research as to what to shoot out of them if you intend to).

I hope this helps clarify the confusion that can be caused by this particular round. It is odd that it is difficult to find good solid information on 7.92x57 (8mm Mauser) despite the fact it is one of the most common rifle rounds for military surplus. "
 
Nicest 8mm was the Portuguese military surplus stuff. The real test was putting it in mg42 belts. No miss fires. Now
you cannot do that. I use it in my Mauser now. I don't think there is much 8mm around anymore. Everyone went to 308
then 223
 
Eaglelord17 said:
As I posted on another thread a couple days ago, Turkish surplus isn't unsafe it just isn't the 7.92x57 most people think it is. Here is my sum up from that other thread.

"As mentioned I felt I would clarify the ammo a bit more. The idea that Turkish 8mm Mauser is overpressure and dangerous has been spread around by people who don't know what they are talking about and lack understanding as to what the round is.

The Turkish 8mm round is based off the WWI 7.92x57 round also called Patrone 'S' ('S' standing for Spitzer aka pointed in German). This round was a 154grn flat-based spitzer .323 bullet travelling at roughly 2880 ft/sec. The Turkish never updated to the later Patrone 's.S.' round which pretty much everyone else did (this being the 198grn boat-tail spitzer .323 bullet at roughly 2490 ft/sec).

Now what this means for civilian shooters is pretty much all semi-automatic 7.92x57 rifles (8mm Mauser) were chambered for the Patrone 's.S.' not Patrone 'S' which would generate a significantly different pressure cerve and potentially destroy semi-automatic firearms (and it has). This is what caused people to believe that Turkish 8mm is dangerous, simply because uneducated people used the wrong ammo in the firearm (think of it being the same as shooting Swiss 7.5x55 GP-11 ammo though a Swiss 1889 rifle in 7.5x53.5 GP-90, it generally will chamber, and it will explode as it wasn't designed for that type of pressure).

What this means is if you have a M98 action in good condition you should be fine. If it is a Turkish Mauser that is actually the ammo the sights would be regulated for (same thing for Gewehr 98s and the original Kar 98s). I personally wouldn't use it in a Commission 88/05 rifle even though it was done as they weren't the strongest rifle action to begin with (and there were documented cases of them blowing up in Turkish service as well as German service, I recommend reading up on the Commission 88 rifles and doing a ton of research as to what to shoot out of them if you intend to).

I hope this helps clarify the confusion that can be caused by this particular round. It is odd that it is difficult to find good solid information on 7.92x57 (8mm Mauser) despite the fact it is one of the most common rifle rounds for military surplus. "
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Thanks--I wasn't aware of that :)
 
Lever arms had crates of Yugo(?) ammo not that long ago. I was looking for ammo for my FN-49 and I ignored it since it was corrosive but now that I think about it, it would have been nice to add a crate or two to the stash, also my FN-49 is far from mint so a bit of corrosive ammo would not have been a tragedy that I thought it would have been.
 
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