WWII Radom pistol rig.

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Vis wz.1935 (Vis model.1935)
The Germans refered to this model as P35(p).
Manufacturer F.B. Radom, Poland.

Serial number N 5075 (This gun is a Grade 2 German Vis in the first alphabet series) this gun was manufactured 1st or 2nd quarter of 1942.

The e/189 magazine floor plate marking is for the Warsaw Bicycle Manufacturing Company.

The black cowhide holster is marked in ink on the inside flap “bnz” (the manufacturers’ code for Steyr-Daimler-Puch) ( Austria) P 35 (p)
The (p) is very faint.
A military acceptance stamp Eagle over WaA/?82

This is not an overly pretty pistol....but the holster is quite nice.

David


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Nice, something to be admired.
I really wish that someone would place order for 100 new guns( that is there minimum number to restart production) at Radom factory
 
I think the Radom is a handsome pistol much like the M1911 and the Browning HP pistol which the Germans adopted when they took control of Belgium.

David

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I suspect that when the Germans took over different countries they were very industrious in utilizing the firearm infrastructure that was in place.

Examples;
In Poland it was the Radom.
In Hungary it was the Femaru.
In Belgium it was the Browning Hi-Power.
Czech...Spreewerk P.38s etc.
Austria...BNZ MP40s, MP44s etc

And there were more.
They needed those resources. This subject is a study by itself.

It is an interesting story.

David
 
Very nice example....thanks for sharing!

The VIS was developed at about the same time as the Belgian High Power, but was of completely Polish design and manufacture.

The book by Robert Berger " The Radom VIS Pistol " is very helpful. Cheers Paul
 
There is a new book about the Vis 35 written by William J. York, entitled VIS Radom, a Study and Photographic Album of Poland's Finest Pistol. Its published by Wet Dog Publishing in the USA.
 
shredder said:
Is not the Radom pistol the Polish version of the Belgian Hi-Power?
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In York's book he states the Polish designer acknowledged borrowing concepts from the Colt 1911, and that possibly the .45 Ruby was also an influence.

As to the belief that the Vis also borrowed from the Belgian Hi Power, York mentions that Berger questions this theory and that the gun writer Kokalis agrees that this is a myth.
 
This are the best books on the VIS Pistol

Zdzisław Walczak: 9 mm pistolet wz. 1935 Vis TBiU 86. Warszawa: Wydawnictwo MON, 1983.

Andrzej Ciepliński, Ryszard Woźniak: 9 mm pistolet samopowtarzalny VIS wz. 1935 TBiU 175. Warszawa: Wydawnictwo Bellona, 1996. ISBN 83-11-08604-4.

Just type TBiU 175 or TBiU 86 the older is better one.

According to both of them Piotr Wilniewczyc acknowlaged thet they were strongly influenced by 1911, and had studied Browning Hi-Power prototypes very carefuly on their trip to FN Nationale plant in the 20s. Their visit there might have been conected with Poland getting a licence to manufacture BAR rifle
 
murat said:
According to both of them Piotr Wilniewczyc acknowlaged thet they were strongly influenced by 1911, and had studied Browning Hi-Power prototypes very carefuly on their trip to FN Nationale plant in the 20s. Their visit there might have been conected with Poland getting a licence to manufacture BAR rifle
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It seems York (plus Berger and Kokalis too) didn't do enough research. Any mention of the Ruby as an influence in the Polish books?
 
They propably new as much about its design history as Karl May about Wild West (He is a German author red by most of continental Europe, he wrot about wild west without seting foot in America and being in German Prison most of his life)

If You read polish this is an exelent article plus is based on sources I mentioned before

http://ioh.pl/artykuly/pokaz/a-na-tygrysy-mieli-visy,1081/

Ruby is not mentioned at all, HP is talked about alot (Browning neglected to pay Polish Patent fees) HP in its first forms was a candidate for new Polish sidearm in the 20s/early 30s
 
Unfortunately I don't read Polish so I'll have to restrict myself to Robert Berger "The Radom VIS Pistol" and William York's new book "VIS Radom" (I have both). One of the moderators of the War Relics Polish forums recommended York's book.

I believe Kokalis's article on the Vis 35 was printed in Shotgun News.
 
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