X Mark Pro vs Walker Fire Control

[Marcelm]

I know a lot has been said about the Remington 700 bolt action rifles and the issues surrounding it's safety and incidents of accidental discharge.

From what I have read online there are many debates about the causes of the issue however the one fact seems to be that all incidents were in Remington 700 models that featured the Walker Fire control system.
Remington seems to have discontinued this system and their website states that all new production 700 models now feature a new trigger system called the X Mark Pro.

I am wondering if any knowledgeable experts or gunsmiths can weight in on the performance, design or construction of the new X Mark Pro system and whether the change to this system from the Walker Fire Control is the necessary step to prevent further accidental discharges from this model.

I know that Remington has undergone challenges with quality control in recent years so would prefer this thread does not become a general Remington bashing thread. Hoping for specific information just on the X Mark Pro vs Walker Fire Control, thanks!

 

[Blastattack]

I'm pretty sure this has been talked to death already. The alleged incidents where the Remington 700 would fire without pulling the trigger were attributed to people setting the trigger weight far lower than they should, causing the sear to not properly engage. During the various tests done during the lawsuit against Remington, neither the plaintiffs nor defendant could replicate an "accidental discharge" when the trigger was set within it's factory set weight-of-pull limits.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

 

[Marcelm]

I know that it has been reported that playing with the trigger weight was behind many malfunctions. And trust me, I build the internet for a living, I know not to trust it
Either way, I'm hoping for some informed education regarding the old Walker trigger and the new X Mark Pro trigger. Can't seem to find a good comparison of the two online that does not have a legal or media bias?

 

[porpoise]

there are 2 kinds of new triggers that i know of one has adjustment you have to take the stock off and one has the pull weight in the trigger. i replaced the one that i had to take the stock off with a timney. the one with the screw in the trigger i set it down to 3 pounds that was not the end of the adjustment to me it is good. i have read other people had heavy triggers maybe they are variable

 

[358]

The average shooter prob. wouldn't find any difference in function between the two. Mark

 

[notsorichguy]

All are based on the same principle.

The original walker trigger was not built to be adjustable. Yet some g-smiths would adjust them, as would people who had no business doing so.

The walker also had a laminated sear. Two different metals were soldered or epoxied together. When the afore mentioned trigger work was done, some were taken apart and polished. This caused some heat, too much heat and the epoxy or solder would start to flow or weaken. This would cause the two pieces of metal to separate causing the rifles trigger to operate when the safety was disengaged.

Take this with a grain of salt: Remington claims that there are no confirmed cases of AD with a walker trigger in factory unfolded around with condition.....

Remington's 700 when it was first released up to the 80s iirc needed the safety to be put into fire position before the action was opened...... You can see the problem.

So Remington went to a different trigger, a modified walker, as it were..... This one you could adjust, and you could also unload the firearm without taking the safety off.

I don't know of any confirmed cases of AD with a modified walker.

Next we come full circle to the x-mark pro.

It seems to have solved most of the 'problems' with the walker, and modified walker. It is a little tighter, crisper and fully adjustable. IMHO the x-mark trigger is a nice trigger. There is no point upgrading it to a timney trigger as you will likely not notice much of a difference. The lowest setting for the timney os 1/2lb lower than the factory x trigger. Now if you were to spend some real $$ for a Jewel, then there is going to be a noticeable difference there.

I am not an expert.
I have not taken any classes on guns or gun smithing.
I do however have a library of reference manuals and books
I also spend hours a day on the internets researching stuff.....
So I could be wrong on any of the above information......