XCR ---- .223 or .308

7.62x39... It's cheaper to shoot and about as accurate as most will need inside 300M

Barring that I'd say the .223.... The XCR-L has seen enough revisions to get the bugs worked out for the most part where as the XCR-M is still in its retail testing stage.
 
depends on the job and if you can get ammo for cheap/free- the 223 /5.56 is a minimal deer cartridge at best whereas the 308 is a do- anything unless there's an action limit like the garand/m14 series with 180 grain bullets- on the other hand, it costs about 2x to feed the 308 just in powder alone
 
The XCR-M is a very nice rifle, but with the price of. 308, makes it. It as attractive to me. The XCR-L on the other hand can currently be changed to 3 different calibers. If you like ,.223, 7.62x39, or 6.8spc, gives you a caliber for plinking, or hunting. Now, for the serious hunter, I imagine they would have more use for a. 308 rifle, if that's your main focus.

Don't get me wrong, I want an "M" model eventually, but I'm happy enough with my "L". Waiting for the the XCR -L Mini, to make its appearance. Patiently.
 
hbean said:
6.8 SPC is no slouch as hunting round compare with the .308.
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I'm not a hunter but I know a few and they all say 6.8 is the new deer round for this century. I've heard Trappers are liking it for minimal damage to the pelt, I guess. I'm not sure what that means, exactly.

Or rather, how that works.
 
DARKSTANG said:
I'm not a hunter but I know a few and they all say 6.8 is the new deer round for this century. I've heard Trappers are liking it for minimal damage to the pelt, I guess. I'm not sure what that means, exactly.

Or rather, how that works.
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Sold my .243 because I have a 6.8 TBH. It's kind of a dumbed down version. (if all you run are the heavier .243 bullets)

Didn't get a chance to take it (6.8) out last winter for coyote shoots, but I'm a big fan of it. Doesn't boot to bad, offers decent ballistics. Ammo cost isn't terrible, starting to see more options for reloading popping up. Plenty of options for .277 cal bullets.
 
na1lb0hm said:
Sold my .243 because I have a 6.8 TBH. It's kind of a dumbed down version. (if all you run are the heavier .243 bullets)

Didn't get a chance to take it (6.8) out last winter for coyote shoots, but I'm a big fan of it. Doesn't boot to bad, offers decent ballistics. Ammo cost isn't terrible, starting to see more options for reloading popping up. Plenty of options for .277 cal bullets.
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I noticed on the net for ballistics that 6.8mm and .243 are very similar. But isn't .243 a bigger cartridge? Like same size length wise to a .308?
 
I have an XCR-L with the 3 kits.

I am going to sell 2-4 other firearms that I will no longer have time to use. I plan on using 6.8 to hunt deer with this fall (110gr Accubonds). Long range cheap practice - .223. Short range plinking x39. I am even thinking of selling one of my restricteds as there is only one range that allows you to shoot steel targets near by.
 
Well it's understandable why Law Enforcement and Military are becoming more interested in that round if it can preform that we'll when hunting.
 
DARKSTANG said:
I noticed on the net for ballistics that 6.8mm and .243 are very similar. But isn't .243 a bigger cartridge? Like same size length wise to a .308?
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6.8 SPC is very nice but it's not a 243 Win: 243 Win have been used to win NRA High Power Riflle, F-Class (up to 1000 yards) and tactical competitions.
A 243 Win will drive a 105gr 0.500 BC bullet at 3000fps while a 6.8 SPC will drive a 110gr 0.360 BC bullet at 2600fps.

As for XCR-L 223 Rem or XCR-M 308, it depends mainly on what you want to do with your rifle.
  • XCR-L 223 is a great non-restricted tactical rifle (tacticool plinker)
  • XCR-L 7.62x39 is for those who shoot way too much ;)
  • XCR-L 6.8 is a nice semi deer rifle
  • XCR-M 308 is a great utility rifle (truck gun) which will kill anything

I forgot one issue: 308 Win kicks like mule compared to 223 Rem, it has 4 times the recoil energy!

Alex
 
I find that .243 kicks too much and is too loud for hunting purposes. I agree - great for target (with double hearing protection).

Some hunting buddies use .243 and soft point pullets fail to expand all too often. All have lost at least one deer due to this. I have been using my 7mm RM with 160gr NAB - Bambi never takes a step. However, this is too heavy for deer unless they are more than 300 yards away.
 
NaviDave said:
I find that .243 kicks too much and is too loud for hunting purposes. I agree - great for target (with double hearing protection).

Some hunting buddies use .243 and soft point pullets fail to expand all too often. All have lost at least one deer due to this. I have been using my 7mm RM with 160gr NAB - Bambi never takes a step. However, this is too heavy for deer unless they are more than 300 yards away.
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Very strange post. Too loud for hunting?!?! 7 mm Mag too much for deer?!?! Disagree on both accounts.
 
The deer we have in Manitoba are neither large or zombified. .270 lite seems about perfect to me up to 300 yards.

Up close, small fast bullets tend to pencil hole. If I have to put up with noise, I prefer 1500lbs of energy at 500 yards vs. 750lbs.
 
I love my xcr in 308 I am getting half inch Mao at 100 yards and one inch at 200 it is expensive to feed but worth every penny these groups are with 168 grain boat tail .
 
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