XCR or MR1

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what would you choose? buying one or the other soon. still undecided on wich one. rifle is for general range shooting. wich one has a smoother lighter trigger? im sure either one is fine to own and shoot but i just dont see anything that makes one stand out over the other.
 
My take on this one i own a mr-1 and no way i would change for a xcr they shoot as good as my Benelli but shooting with a guy that own one, it jam often he went and had it adjust by the smith where he bought it and it is still jamming, imagine he paid a 1000.00 more tham mine, so far 3900 shots not a single malfunction and with my reloads Amax 52 gr it shoot 1 to 1.25 inch all day... JP.
 
well neither rifle has a place on the range, they are non-restricted.

The xcr has one of the best auto-loading triggers I've ever felt. I have no exerpience with the mr1

Are you going to hang stupid amounts of stuff off of it?

Optics? remember that the mr1 will need hi rings to clear the rear iron sight, or you will need it removed for longer scopes.

Are you going to be reloading? XCR has an easily adjustable gas block for cycling lighter loads.

are you a righty or lefty? the xcr will throw brass forward towards the 2 o clock position
 
No war intended my benelli metallic sights co-witheness whit a sparc and it mounted 1.1X4 S&B Short dot with see-tru i use the 3 at the same time, the mr-1 trigger break clean at 4 pounds after a short travel, very good trigger, i have put a second one on order i like them a lot, what bug me of XCR is the stupid jamming... for a rifle of that price that should not be... now this man is out of a rifle for a second time in 3 months for adjustments... that not pleasant... Cheers. JP.
 
I had nothing but good times with my xcr, no jams, no issues what so ever...I did find it kinda heavy and that is my only complaint, but I have small arms... I'll try an mr-1 next as I live in an area where I can use it on coyotes in my yard and carry it everywhere. I think if you buy either you'll be happy,just buy a newer version xcr cause they have far less bugs... partially due to being a new design from a company without the benefits of military contracts to help them out...

Either one should be real fun to own...
 
I went the MR1 route after realizing I wanted a simple rifle that worked.

Reading the pages upon pages of people adjusting the XCR, poking at this, poking at that, loctiting bits and pieces here and there, new version versus old version, customer service issues, management issues, QC issues blah blah blah blah turned me off real fast.

Mind you, I would have to say an MR1 is a step outside the run of the mill, both in looks and operation... I would do some research to ensure you know what you're getting either way.
 
just curious if anyone has noticed ther poi changing when the MR1 barrel heats up. the mr1 i handled at the local shop was solidly built and fun to play with there but i was a little concerned about the paper thin barrel.
 
Well almost 2000 rounds and my XCR had 1 jam. I will stick with it. The MR1 I ust do not like the looks and feel. I have shot one and it is nice enough but not for me. See if you can shoot both and then decide. The caliber is a big issue for me since this is not a range gun. Cannot hunt with .223 here. 7.62x39 and 6.8 rule.
 
Very surprisingly it dont those barrel become very warm but poi dont change at all... This is a battle rifle citidenzed and it show, on almost 4000 rounds i bearely had to clean the thing and if you look at the chrome gaz system it look new, i would not fell undergunned anywere with my MR-1... Cheers. JP.
 
What ever happened to typing skills, spelling and grammar. This is not texting.

The Benelli definitely has a unique feel and look to it. Try one on for size at a local gun store to get a great idea if it fits you.
 
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just curious if anyone has noticed ther poi changing when the MR1 barrel heats up. the mr1 i handled at the local shop was solidly built and fun to play with there but i was a little concerned about the paper thin barrel.
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All benelli barrels are cryo dipped, something nobody really does anymore and is a Benelli trademark. They have their own system of doing it, much advanced than what they were doing 15 years ago.

One of the main factors that this does, is prevent shot stringing when hot, hence why they can have a slimmer barrel.

Here is an excert I pulled off the internet.

I think the problem with cryo was misinformation about what it was for and how it was done.
Cryo treatment stress relives the barrel, this is beneficial if you shoot rapid fire, you don't have stringing of the groups. If you shot slower it will have less of an effect. If the barrel shot bad before it will shot bad after, I think the statements about improving accuracy were based on the rapid fire improvements.
I cryo every barrel blank before machining because it seems to machine better, After the barrel is chambered and contoured I cryo it again, All of my tooling, drills, end mills, chisels saw blades are also cryoed and I know for a fact they stay sharp longer.

The process of cryoing isn't as simple as dropping the part into a tub of liquid nitrogen and pulling it out. To be done correctly the part is put in to a type of freezer that takes the parts down to zero and holds them their for a certain amount of time then the temperature is dropped farther and held again this series of steps is done until the temperature reaches 300 below zero it is held their for a period of time then brought back to room temperature in the same series of steps it went down in. After reaching room temp it is put into a heat treat oven at 300 degrees for 1 to 2 hours to temper the part.
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Interesting info about the cryo.

I really wish either came in a southpaw version... Or RA would give me a mirror-image of the blueprints to the XCR... :D
 
Mag release is ambi yes, flush button on each side of the magwell.

Its a bit of the weak point though, its tough to operate/extremely stiff and doesn't allow mags to drop free.

Changing mags is almost a 2 handed affair.

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I'm going to re-post a small review I did on the MR1 when I first got it for some heads up info for those inquiring about it or want some more inside details. This is comparing it to an AR or other "go-fast" tactical type millitary rifles. If you want recommendations about accuracy, user Caramel here has put something like :eek:4000?:eek: rounds through his in a the past month and he claims MOA accuracy with certain loads. Geologist here just bought one with the "manta ray" adjustable stock and he has pics in his thread about the MR1 as well. I added some further edits in bold now that I've spent more time with her...I threw in the pic of the work in progress thus far at the bottom as well.

Well it DID start life as an assault rifle, beretta rx4...

Its not an ideal setup for a go-fast weapon though...
these reasons mostly:

-Mag release doesn't allow drop free mags, and is a ##### itself to operate...It IS ambi though
-No 100% co-witness (You can get 1/3 co-witness or so still), super high optic over bore if you don't lose the rear irons. If you lose the rear irons, you can mount low rings, I went this route for a proper cheekweld
-Limited real estate for mounting accessories, the tri-rail is incoming for me, but I don't think it covers what is required for high-end operational use...I've mounted a light and bipod on mine and still have 1 free rail
-bit on the heavy side by modern standards 8lbs unloaded

HOWEVER, as a jack of all trades rifle, I don't think much surpasses it as a non-restricted black rifle...you do gain a bunch of features by losing some of that high speed compared to an AR for example.

-I would argue that the benelli piston system is more reliable than even a piston ar, which makes the weight acceptable, since I won't be shouldering this gun for hours on end sweeping towns.
-Runs super clean, making cleaning and maintenance not only easy, but very forgiving if you don't want to clean after every trip.
-Benelli quality in the finish and overal parts etc.
-uses AR mags, even if they dont drop free, this is a plus over say a mini-14
-Allows enough real-estate for the user that isn't part of a socom team. with the tri-rail, you can mount bi-pods, lights, lasers without problem.
-shoulders very easily, the stock being where it is, shoulders like a shotgun, and shotguns are made angled to shoulder very quickly for wing shots etc. If there is one high speed aspect that this rifle has, its that it shoulders like a benelli m4, which is fast and smooth.
-Either stylish or fugly. Nobody really sits on the fence with this gun. I was always in the fugly crowd, but am slowly warming up to it, then again, I plan on various modifications to change it up a bit. On that note, it is "Styled" and not a straight combat rifle design. That give it a bit more "friendly/PC" look for things like hunting or target shooting without having a super combat look.
-NON-RESTRICTED


Overall, I think it suits alot of requirments nicely, esp with the 1-4xoptic...

-Hunting varmints
-Zombie invasion ranged headshots
-Rabid squirrel invasion doorkicking
-SHTF
-Target shooting

There are faster rifles, more accurate rifles, more combat looking guns, more hunter friendly looking guns etc etc. This one balances it all off in one package.
This one can do it all for the average joe in my books, and that is the best part.
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In retrospect, because its not QUITE as fast as an AR type rifle and has a bit of weight, I built it more along the lines of a DMR styled rifle.

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Some of you try to write in french without any faults, i think i am getting by pretty good for a french talking person, any old teacher in this crowd... JP.
 
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