yet another 10/22 thread

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Ok, here goes....New(ish) 10/22 carbine, with about 300 rnds through it now.
First 200 were when it was bone stock. Had 6 shells fail to fire in those 200. Picked up the ejected nonfiring shells and reloaded them..."bang" 5 of the 6 fired.
Now, after installing the "High perf. trigger kit" from "Rimfire" I went back out and in another 100 rnds, had several more "fail to fires"
:( What do I need to spend money on NOW to get consistancy? Does rimfire offer a better hammer spring?

Hell, I put the gun down after the last fail to fire thinking the gun was empty. Pulled the clip and there was still shells in it! Meaning there was one in the chamber!!!! :eek: The gun was laying crossways to the firing line on a table. :eek: :eek: :eek:
I tell you..I felt like a real a**hole but at the same time really pi$$ed at this gun that I'm honestly not impressed with.
It really galls me that a **NEW** rifle needs money poured into it.
 
I am also disapointed in todays workmanship in ruger 10/22's my new one had several burr's on the bolt(that would of gouged out the aluminum), I smoothed them off, also headspaced the bolt and ground the firing pin to the proper profile. Extra head space doesn't help for reliable firing, I found this out when I put the 18" bull bbl on. I need a new shorter extractor, but for now get buy with the stocker.
 
Deburring a 10/22 is simple, shoot 1000rds and it does all the work for you! I have noticed more wear in my newest 10/22. Really looks like ruger doesnt give a crap. They also seem to change subcontractors on various parts over the years too.
 
Rick65Cat said:
Ok, here goes....New(ish) 10/22 carbine, with about 300 rnds through it now.
First 200 were when it was bone stock. Had 6 shells fail to fire in those 200. Picked up the ejected nonfiring shells and reloaded them..."bang" 5 of the 6 fired.
Now, after installing the "High perf. trigger kit" from "Rimfire" I went back out and in another 100 rnds, had several more "fail to fires"
:( What do I need to spend money on NOW to get consistancy? Does rimfire offer a better hammer spring?

Hell, I put the gun down after the last fail to fire thinking the gun was empty. Pulled the clip and there was still shells in it! Meaning there was one in the chamber!!!! :eek: The gun was laying crossways to the firing line on a table. :eek: :eek: :eek:
I tell you..I felt like a real a**hole but at the same time really pi$$ed at this gun that I'm honestly not impressed with.
It really galls me that a **NEW** rifle needs money poured into it.
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What ammo were you using???? 95% of FTF is due to ammo not the gun......cheap walmart/crappytire .22 ammo has alot if inconsistancies / the priming compund ...especially with the distribution around the rim and cartridge size( case diameter &OAL).
there has bee problems with higher priced stuff as well i bought a couple of bricks of eley target pistol that had cartridges that were different in OAL by about 1/16 of an inch(the longer one would not even fit in my mags).

Clean out the firing pin/bolt, dissasemble and make sure no greasy lube is in the firing pin channel. make sure the chamber face/ bolt face is clean as well, any bullet lube build up on the camber face will cushion the bolt/firing pin and cause a failure to fire
 
Tommy,
I use (and only use) Remington "Cyclone" HP shells. I've fired 1000s of these bullets through my 21 year old Squires Bingham M20. And not one FTF.
Then I treat myself to a new 10/22 cause everyone raves about them, and within 300 rnds get probably a dozen or more fail to fires.
I will pull the bolt and see if theres any factory grease in the firing pin channel.
(grumble grumble)
 
I've fired a about 1500 rounds through my 10/22 (once was a 500 round day with no cleaning...) and the only problems I've had were about a half dozen stove pipes on a pack of cheap Federal Bulk ammo that cycled the action really poorly (I swear some of them sounded like subsonics)...

Try out some different ammo maybe? I dunno.. Maybe you got a lemon?
 
My honest opinion

is the 10/22 is a GREAT gun with some TLC done to it to improve it. It is unfortunate that it needs tuning but if you like mucking around with things she be a gem to muck around with.;) The factory trigger is the nastiest I have ever felt. When you pull triggers in the ounces on a cosistent basis they are hard to swallow.
 
All I can say is that I had to put about $600 into my 10/22 to get it to perform to what I'd consider an 'acceptable' level. The level that my bolt 22's and buck mark shoot to, out of the box. This is why I take issue with those who blame their ammo for FTF's. I have NEVER once had an FTF in my bolt 22's, and have only ever had 2 or 3 FTF's total in my Buckmark and lever gun, out of two and a half cases of the stuff (Federal AE's & Champions, as well as remington Cyclones)

Anyway, I ended up buying a Kid 'match' bolt (with a match firing pin). This bolt is about a hundred bucks, and it did reduce (but not eliminate) the FTF's that I was having. A match bolt has tighter headspace, which improves ignition (and accuracy). Plus it's radiused, improving feeding.
Also, there's quite a bit of vertical slop in the pin, so a lot of guys have the pin channel pinned shut to keep the firing pin consistently striking the same place on the rim.
 
300 rounds is nothing to a 10/22. I was disappointed with mine, because I kept reading about people who loved Dynapoints. I would get stovepipes if I tried to shoot any bulk ammo. I had to use slightly better quality ammo like Federal Gameshok or Winchester Super-X to get the rifle to function reliably. After a couple of years, I tried another box of Dynapoints and they work great. I think (hope) it may finally be broken in. I don't know how many rounds it took, but several bricks for sure.

I put the Volquartzen hammer in mine. Hugh improvement. Did not use the springs that came with the kit because I read somewhere that the stock springs were fine.

Personally, I don't prefer Remington ammo.
 
Hello Ruger?...Please send me a...

NEW FARGIN FIRING PIN SPRING!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Trying to reassemble the %#!$ bolt and the firing pin slipped....*sproinnnng*...across my friggen basement to be lost forever amongst car tarps, boxes, assorted sh!#!!!!!
Two fruitless hours of searching....AARRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!
I swear this gun is jinxed!
Would you Edmonton posters know if gunshops here would have one?
I am sooooooo pi$$ed right now
 
Rugers 10/22 is far away from perfection, does not like some of the ammo, thunderbolts, cyclones, yellow bullets will have a lot of FTF, Federal Champion HP (wal-mart bulk) and American Eagle will jam a lot like 3 to 4 on 10 shot mag I even had double fire when it fires 2-3 times by itself (Federal Champs), on other hand CCI mini-mags, Stingers, Winchester super x noooo problem at all. My marlin 795 had only one jam ever (American Eagle) more then 2000 rounds on it now and few FTF with Remington crappy yellow bullets. So experiment with ammo.
My Ruger trigger spring flew away too, but I was lucky and find it.
 
remington cyclone is garbage.
clean your gun and load it up with CCI ammo and see if it is still jamming. i have a recent production 10/22T and havent had any problems.

it boggles my mind that people will spend hundreds of dollars worth on upgrades and then try to save $1-2 on ammo, then complain about the gun when it doesnt perform well. why does noone complain to remington about their sh*t quality cyclone ammo?.
 
Mine feed's and fire's all sorts of ammo, I shoot winchester power points in mine for the accuracy and expansion. I was disapointed in velocitators effects on gophers. They would be more suited to larger game like badger's and whatnot.
 
Rick65Cat said:
Tommy,
I use (and only use) Remington "Cyclone" HP shells. I've fired 1000s of these bullets through my 21 year old Squires Bingham M20. And not one FTF.
Then I treat myself to a new 10/22 cause everyone raves about them, and within 300 rnds get probably a dozen or more fail to fires.
I will pull the bolt and see if theres any factory grease in the firing pin channel.
(grumble grumble)
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to quote Rainman....sorta "Remmington sucks........" well ok it'll do in a pinch ( but not when it counts. competition/hunting) I try to avoid it as much as possible cause it is the one brand that has caused me the most grief in all my shooting. Their .22 ammo is unreliable ..... I bought a brick of target 22 once...i kid you not... i had 50% ftf.. all their BP stuff is Proprietary... when they print "use only remminton brand accseeories in their ML 700 " they mean nothing but Remmington accessories will fit properly!! their No. 11 percucion nipple is just a bit bigger than the standard . so all the CCI's, dynamit nobel's do not fit properly and will give ftf on a remmington nipple.. this also means that the remmington caps fall off other nipples on side hammers easier....along with the inconsistant priming compound( very moisture sensitvie as well) the only remmington products i buy are firearms ( love the 870/700) and centrefire ammo.


( disclaimer::the above rant /hijack is my opinion only, based on many years of plinking/hunting/competative target shooting... and is not intended to try to cause any undo negative consequnces for the stated brand/s )

tg
 
btw i dont mean to imply that remington cyclones wont fire. theyll go off all right if the firing pin strikes the rim - just about anything will.
the problem is that they need to successfully feed into the chamber in order to do so. theyre inconsistant and sloppily made, and their heads arent waxed or lubed or plated like quality ammo so if you store them for a few months they start to corrode and get very rough and grungy, which im sure doesnt help feeding either.
for those blaming the gun and not the ammo - what else could explain how all of my feeding issues are solved the instant i switch to CCI brand ammo?

i did have some failures to feed when i first got the gun because from the factory the rotary mag was tensioned too heavily. i had to disassemble it and back off the rotor spring a bit in order for it to feed reliably. after that i had no problems, except with remington cyclones.
ive never owned a recent production standard 10/22 - just the 10/22T, which is a $450 gun... perhaps the recent $230 models are of lower quality?

check the magazine tension to ensure its feeding reliably, stick to the stock magazine or butler creek steel lips mags, and shoot off a few hundred rounds of quality ammo to help break things in a bit.
 
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