Okay, well, being the proud new owner of an norinco m14, I have been playin and fiddlin with the new toy and it took me a couple days to realize.... there is something missing from these rifles!!! For the life of me I cannot locate a safety switch. Do regular USGI models have such a thing? How does one safely carry in cocked and locked mode??? My first one will be for hunting so should one carry the rifle with the bolt open? What do those of you who hunt with these do?
yet another m305 thread hehehe
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mine does not stay locked, i assume you mean the tab with the hole that sits in the slot at the front of the guard. I #### the rifle and press the tab into the trigger guard, I hear a click but the tab moves back to where it came from when i let go..... any tips on fixing/adjusting this?
I've now disassembled the rifle and am playin with the trigger group. with the guard closed, and the hammer cocked, the safety moves farther with an audible click but again, I remove my finger and the safety returns to it's off position, with a click..... maybe the little leaf spring is too strong or the mating surfaces where the safety engages the hammer are not quite right. Anyone else run into this issue? Before i start taking the trigger group apart, I'll wait to see if anyone has anymore insight into this.
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Yes my friend had the same problem. After shooting about a dozen rounds, it fixed itself. We have no clue what the problem was. Hope u get yours fixed.
In my opinion, there's no reason to ever be walking around with a bullet in the chamber anyway. I never use the safety. If I see an animal I want to shoot, I cycle the gun and then blast away. It takes so little time to cycle a gun it's not an issue. I've never had an animal run away in the 0.5 seconds it takes to cycle. Either they're already running and you wouldn't be able to shoot anyway, or you'll have enough time to cycle. Remember, aiming takes way longer than cycling. If you don't have time to aim the extra 0.5 seconds it takes to cycle won't matter anyway.
That's my $0.02. I'm really suprised though how often people refer to hunting with a bullet chambered and the safety on...
That's my $0.02. I'm really suprised though how often people refer to hunting with a bullet chambered and the safety on...
Ok, I want to concede the only legitimate time that a safety is useful and perhaps needed. With an autoloader a safety is important after you take that first shot at an animal and the gun automatically puts another bullet in the chamber. While you're all excited and shaking and trying to find the (hopefully) downed animal, it's a good idea to keep the safety on. But that's it. No other use for a safety.
i would disagree that cycling prior to shooting isnt a big deal. cycling the gun indeed is quick, but it often alerts the animal you are hunting...so the "longer time to aim" will screw you over while the animal starts running away. its easier to point, click off the safty, then fire.
With your new M14S/M305 etc, you have to rack it back hard while depressing the safety, otherwise it will not engage. A simple test proves this. With the trigger assembly removed and the trigger guard snapped in, the hammer back. Can you engage the safety? If not, while holding the hammer back until it stops, can you engage the safety? If you can at this point it is normal.
Wear and tear will make a difference on the safety function. No need to hone or file anything. Just know the rifle.
Wear and tear will make a difference on the safety function. No need to hone or file anything. Just know the rifle.
where i hunt deer it is an ambush tactic, I'm sitting on a "deer highway" and shots come from 30ft to 50 yards. I park my ass, with a round chambered and safety on, though I am sitting, not hiking and stuff. If I was on the hoof, walkin and stalkin, I agree, chamber empty, but when I'm sittin and waiting, my rifle is at the ready. I have startled deer many times with the click of the safety and I like em to not even know what hit em.
I hunt deer both from stands and (more commonly) while kickign it through the brush. I always carry with a round chanbered and the safety on. If you can't trust yourself/your equiptment enough to be at the ready then you might consider using another rifle or building your confidence with the one you have. Though it may only take a fraction of a second to rack the action on an SKS, you need to do it with enough force to feed the round properly. This is a noisy process and that split second of loud mechanical noise, before you even shoulder the rifle is more than enough to lose you your shot in most of my cases.
I ALWAYS hunt with one in the chamber, safety on... So, having said that, 45acp... Have someone who knows the M14 well... look at your gun... The safety should "snap" on when pushed "into" the trigger guard and STAY THERE till you push it back out to remove it... It moves quite a bit into the trigger guard, my M14 moves a little when I start applying pressure and then "snap" the safety engages when I apply signficantly more...
Cheers
Jay
Cheers
Jay
It is critical to get in the habit of engaging the safety when not actually going to discharge your firearm. Racking a round in, is irrelevant - there is always a delay pre and post discharge. It seems like a simple rule similar to "keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot". You ALWAYS disengage just before shooting and ALWAYS engage just after shooting. Less potential for Martians to pull your trigger when you're not looking.
