Zeiss???
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I've been using a Zeiss Conquest 3x9x40 on my Primary rifle for 5 years with absolutly no problems, it's been on quad's and survived an Airline trip to Africa with never a change in point of impact.
BTW, the primary rifle has been about 4 different guns over that time, great scopes.
BTW, the primary rifle has been about 4 different guns over that time, great scopes.
The Conquests are decent enough scopes, I like my 3-9. What I get a kick out of is how the owners are often so quick to say "Zeiss" but only offer the "conquest " part up grudgingly, and usually only when pressed. It's almost like they know deep down that they aren't "real Zeiss". A Conquest doesn't hold a candle to a German scope.
The Zeiss Conquest is similiar to the Khales by Swarovski. It's just the lower brand level. Sort of like Honda/Acura , Toyota/Lexus.
The fact that the Conquest is made in the Unites States is fantastic for Canadians right now since our dollar is so strong. This has made the Zeiss Conquest actually affordable to many of us.
I have no shame in saying it's a Zeiss Conquest. It's a damn fine scope. Right now it's at a decent price as well. Which I can't say for the European models. Even the lower end Eurpean models are too expensive due to the high value of the Euro.
The fact that the Conquest is made in the Unites States is fantastic for Canadians right now since our dollar is so strong. This has made the Zeiss Conquest actually affordable to many of us.
I have no shame in saying it's a Zeiss Conquest. It's a damn fine scope. Right now it's at a decent price as well. Which I can't say for the European models. Even the lower end Eurpean models are too expensive due to the high value of the Euro.
They are a darned good scope for the money. I've got some "real" Ziess scopes and I agree that the Conquest is a step down but definitely not a significant one. I just picked up a new Conquest with the Rapid Z 800 reticle. This could possibly be the most advanced long-range scope I've ever shot. I've done a fair bit of shooting out to 800 metres with it and so far....I'm impressed. It's definitely earned a place on my 7mm for this fall's Dall sheep hunt. Under ideal conditions, I'd be more than comfortable shooting to 600 metres.
Probably one in a million but my only experience with a Zeiss was helping a guy sight in his new rifle with a new Zeiss scope that cost him over a grand. By the third shot it was obvious something was amiss. Next shot the reticle rotated 45 degrees and looked like an X instead of a +. I didn't even realize that was possible. It must have been loose right from the factory because it was clear that the gunsmith who installed the scope and set the reticle level never noticed the scope cap was about 8 degrees off level.
I recently bought 5 of them. 3 in Varmint Rapid Z and 2 in the Rapid Z 1000 yard reticle.
One of the varmint reticle scopes had to go back. There was a speck or something in the top right corner. It looked like a blemish on the lens. However it was inside the scope. So it got returned. No problems. I was given a new one on the spot.
It does happend. That being said the others including the replacement have been excellent. The tracking is flawless.
I'm very happy with them. The glass is very good, and the tracking/repeatability has been outstanding. I also like the taget knobs. About the only complaint is that they have gotten rid of the yardage markings on the side parallex adjustment. I know the previous non Rapid Z reticle scopes had the markings. My 6.5-20x 50mm models have the 50 yard and infinity markings. The rest are hash marks without numerical values. That being said it doesn't really make a difference.
I've seen a Swarovski that had problems right out of the box. I've heard of Leupold's and almost every other brand scope that has had lemons. It does happen.
One of the varmint reticle scopes had to go back. There was a speck or something in the top right corner. It looked like a blemish on the lens. However it was inside the scope. So it got returned. No problems. I was given a new one on the spot.
It does happend. That being said the others including the replacement have been excellent. The tracking is flawless.
I'm very happy with them. The glass is very good, and the tracking/repeatability has been outstanding. I also like the taget knobs. About the only complaint is that they have gotten rid of the yardage markings on the side parallex adjustment. I know the previous non Rapid Z reticle scopes had the markings. My 6.5-20x 50mm models have the 50 yard and infinity markings. The rest are hash marks without numerical values. That being said it doesn't really make a difference.
I've seen a Swarovski that had problems right out of the box. I've heard of Leupold's and almost every other brand scope that has had lemons. It does happen.
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i heard some where that they only had 30 moa elovation am looking at the z 1000 for my 308 does anyone know if this is true???
I have had 2 experiences with Zeiss, both made in Germany. One was a riflescope owned by a proud as a peacock shooter who looked the part but could not shoot worth the ####. His new Zeiss crapped out on the first day of the course and he had to relegate to a loaner Leupold scope that worked like a charm. The second was a Zeiss spotting scope that busted and had to be sent back to Germany to be fixed...for whatever reason over 8 months later it returned. We used a Mark 4 Tactical Spotting scope in it's absence with no problems. Zeiss is overated as far as Iam concerned.
Funny that I only read about bad experiences with Zeiss on the internet. The stories are mostly second hand and mostly about some rich fellow blah blah blah. Hey, any piece of equipment can fail or go haywire, but I haven't from plenty of first hand experience and from many hunters I know personally had or heard of a Zeiss failing.
It's almost like saying "my Z28/Mustang (leupold) kept up with this Eurotrash a-hole in his Porsche (Zeiss)". Maybe there is a hint of envy out there?
It's almost like saying "my Z28/Mustang (leupold) kept up with this Eurotrash a-hole in his Porsche (Zeiss)". Maybe there is a hint of envy out there?
Ya, I agree 1899.....I'm sure there is the odd case of high end Euro glass failing but I've sure never seen it and I've beat some of it up pretty bad but then I'm not rich either so no reason for it to fail on me...
The Conquest like the Kahles is definitely more in the quality and price range of high end American glass but still great value for the money. These two lines were a pretty smart move by Zeiss and Swarovski as they gave them a foothold in the North American market where shooters tend to be more frugal!
The Conquest like the Kahles is definitely more in the quality and price range of high end American glass but still great value for the money. These two lines were a pretty smart move by Zeiss and Swarovski as they gave them a foothold in the North American market where shooters tend to be more frugal!
Well I can tell you that my experience wasn't second hand or urban myth. It was me shooting the gun and helping him sight it in. I doubt its common as I am guessing that Zeiss would see the returns and quickly correct the problem. At the price of that glass, you would expect quality to be a priority.
The defect with the one Zeiss Conquest was first hand as well.
I also do know of a Swarovski failing. Although it wasn't mine.
It happens. The thing is, when I noticed the defect on mine I took it in, had a new one remounted on my rifle the next day. So I'm still happy. The other 4 scopes were flawless.
I also do know of a Swarovski failing. Although it wasn't mine.
It happens. The thing is, when I noticed the defect on mine I took it in, had a new one remounted on my rifle the next day. So I'm still happy
. The other 4 scopes were flawless.
