- Location
- Brant County, Ontario
I try not to read his post, always full of bullsh!t.
Is it legal to hunt with a 9mm carbine in SW Ontario
- Thread starter MXoutdoors
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I try not to read his post, always full of bullsh!t.
skneub
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
By Alberta's definition you can legally hunt moose with it.
Grizz
Are you sure there is not an overall cartridge length minimum , there was before ;-)
I know it changed a little a couple years ago though
antiqueguy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- windsor ontario
can you tell me how it is BS because plenty of deer have been taken with pistols(go on youtube and take a look). I it was legal you could guarantee id be doing it myself a shot to the heart/lungs will kill no matter what you are using. if you place it right and know your limits a .357 mag out of a 4" barreled revolver will put meat on the table it may not be a 100 yard gun but 10 or 15 yards and you have to have enough discipline to pass up shot that will not go well. I pass up quite a few deer every year why because I know that if I make the shot it may end up not turning out to work as planned
Muskyhunter1
CGN Regular
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- Near the tree with the crooked limb.
Just be careful - get it in writing.
275 bore is the top of one land to the top on the other land. We buy bullets to fill the groove ie .284 dia. I would say the 7mm could go either way but most likely too big to shoot. It is not worth the hassle in my opinion. 9mm too big for sure.
275 bore is the top of one land to the top on the other land. We buy bullets to fill the groove ie .284 dia. I would say the 7mm could go either way but most likely too big to shoot. It is not worth the hassle in my opinion. 9mm too big for sure.
- Location
- Brant County, Ontario
Sorry I think you misunderstood my post. I try not to read sunray's post, not yours, because I often find he is full of sh!t. You I agree 100% with and I do hunt with a pistol cartridge
antiqueguy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- windsor ontario
Sorry I think you misunderstood my post. I try not to read sunray's post, not yours, because I often find he is full of sh!t. You I agree 100% with and I do hunt with a pistol cartridge
you quoted me easy mistake
9mm is not one of those "good enough" calibers.... .357 mag or 44 would be a much better choice, but neaither of these were mentioned by the OP.....
In general the .357 Magnum 125g has velocities of about 1300-1700fps developing energy of about 500-800fp...
The 9mm 124g has velocities of about 1000-1200fps developing energies of about 300-400fp...
This is a 66-100% difference in energy... One could say the .357 cartridge in standard factory loadings is up to TWICE as powerful as the 9mm...
These look like numbers for shooting from a handgun?
Got anything that lists velocity/energy from a long barrel?
Well... first off, I wouldn't consider the barrel on a JR to be "long".... but a 125 grain pill factory loaded from a 9mm will get you 1449 in an 18 inch barrel as opposed to the 2113 you will get from a .357 mag in that barrel length.....
- Location
- Brant County, Ontario
The OP I don't think ever mentioned hunting deer with a 9mm so not sure how that got in there, in fact I do not think anyone mentioned that other then you. He did however mention hunting yotes with it and I'm sure it is plenty for them
True.... if you get them in close enough range....
Antiqueguy brought in the the whole deer thing... it was him who I quoted and responded to....
- Location
- Brant County, Ontario
10-4, although I think it is all a mute point because unless something has changed you can't hunt in those areas with above .275
- Location
- Brant County, Ontario
For f.... sake, must proof read before I hit post...............................
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
Legal or not it's a bad idea. Speaking as someone who has shot lots of deer with a 9mm I can say that it ranks slightly ahead of "hammer" and behind "big hammer" for killing deer ethically and humanely. Might do for a coyote but even then it's not a very good choice.
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Ok guys, I called up the MNR office last week and asked this question, I was told that a 9mm handgun round was ok to hunt small game with in SW Ontario aslong as it is a non restricted rifle. The reason is that the handgun round dose not preform like a high powered rifle, but more like a rimfire in terms of velocity. Their was some kind of formula he used but I forgot to right that down, so my next step is to go to the office and get it in writing, then maybe go buy myself a JR Carbine
it does not matter what "formula" they use.. the wording in the regs is clear.. "calibre" represent the diameter of the bullet, it does not represent the cartridge which sits behind the bullet.. a 9mm pistol cartridge is greater than is allowed.. BTW: When someone calls the cops about a noise complaint.. is the MNR going to show up or the cops?? you think the cops will agree 100% with the mnr (or even call them.. ).. Nope..
