Another Beautiful SKS from Westrifle!

^^^ Could explain why he wanted pictures of 1949 bayonets, even after importing a ton of them.

From April 11, 2014.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1064974-1949-Sks-pictures

westrifle_sks said:
Can people please post 1949 Sks pictures here. Close up of bayonet is important for me.

Al
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As the rifle wasn't as advertised, I would hope there would be some customer service follow up. It was pictured as having a Chinese bayo, but as you said he claimed it was Russian. It most definitely isn't.
 
ljones said:
It is a Tula. Like already said above Izhevsk only made SKS's part of 53 and most of 54. There is no such thing as a 56 Izzy...
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Wrong

Late models had dark red laminate stocks. They are thinner at the grip then refurb laminates and have the fartory stamps on them.
 
ljones said:
It is a Tula. Like already said above Izhevsk only made SKS's part of 53 and most of 54. There is no such thing as a 56 Izzy...
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ljones said:
Also unrefurb Izzy's would have a hardwood stock not laminate. The laminates didn't come into existence for the SKS till after the Ishevsk stopped production of the SKS.
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Dsiwy said:
Wrong

Late models had dark red laminate stocks. They are thinner at the grip then refurb laminates and have the fartory stamps on them.
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Nope. He is totally right. Kizzy's never came with laminate stocks unless refurbed. Izzys were only made in 53 and 54 before laminates were used.
 
JimDO said:
The online westrifle pic was very small. Only after i bought it n was awaiting its arrival, did someone from here but on the sks survival website mention that it was or looked like a chinese spike. Too late for me. And Al wont even send me a russian blade bayo to make it look more authentic. I offered this as a simple cheap solution for him but to no avail. He offered a return but when i accepted his return rules.
, he decided to stop replying to my emails. 2 weeks of attempted negotiation for not.

Re Als post you linked to...he tod me he was going to do that due to my complaint. Guess he was thinking other 1949 owners woud post their pics n hope that one might also have a Chinese spike attached. Looks like this failed. Bit of a scam Id say.
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Jimdo, I am aware of your problem with the bayonet. After seeing your pictures, I can understand your concern.
If I may address this deficiency,
I believe Al started that thread to see if there were any variants that looked like yours. Does your bayonet have any markings, or numbers on it? Is there anything that makes you certain it is Chinese besides its colour?
I will take a closer look at mine, and see if it is marked. Perhaps it is a parade finish?

You can't put a blade bayonet on your 49. The inlet on the stock is different. That is why you didn't get one.
If I were you, I would get that bayonet reblued.
Sorry you are not satisfied. These guns came from crates that were deep into an old salt mine in the Ukraine. Hard to imagine how a Chinese bayonet wound up there.
 
JimDO said:
The online westrifle pic was very small. Only after i bought it n was awaiting its arrival, did someone from here but on the sks survival website mention that it was or looked like a chinese spike. Too late for me. And Al wont even send me a russian blade bayo to make it look more authentic. I offered this as a simple cheap solution for him but to no avail. He offered a return but when i accepted his return rules.
, he decided to stop replying to my emails. 2 weeks of attempted negotiation for not.

Re Als post you linked to...he tod me he was going to do that due to my complaint. Guess he was thinking other 1949 owners woud post their pics n hope that one might also have a Chinese spike attached. Looks like this failed. Bit of a scam Id say.
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"He offered a return but when i accepted his return rules"
What is the Return Policy? What was so unfavourable to you?

Since genuine 1949 spike bayonets are unobtanium, that would seem to have been the best approach. A 1949 SKS minus bayonet will be a hard sell...........
 
DOOK said:
Jimdo, I am aware of your problem with the bayonet. After seeing your pictures, I can understand your concern.
If I may address this deficiency,
I believe Al started that thread to see if there were any variants that looked like yours. Does your bayonet have any markings, or numbers on it? Is there anything that makes you certain it is Chinese besides its colour?
I will take a closer look at mine, and see if it is marked. Perhaps it is a parade finish?

You can't put a blade bayonet on your 49. The inlet on the stock is different. That is why you didn't get one.
If I were you, I would get that bayonet reblued.
Sorry you are not satisfied. These guns came from crates that were deep into an old salt mine in the Ukraine. Hard to imagine how a Chinese bayonet wound up there.
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3 sided spikes are Chinese. 4 sided spikes are russian. The spike pictured is three sided, and is longer than the russian meaning it is Chinese. Reblued? It was never blued to begin with.

How did it get on there? Well that is bubba'd work.
 
fenceline said:
Letter series. Reverse N is 1957. K is 1958 and A is 56. At least that is the latest rumours. The letter series dating matches the dating for Makarov pistols.
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I believe you must have gotten your info from YOOPER JOHNS web site. TULA stopped sks production in 1956....... the crilliac A and REVERSED N are 1955/56. K after ser# is accepted as being East German. other Russian firearms produced AFTER 1956 had the crilliac N and A stamped on them,hence the confussion about a 1957/8 SKS . hope this helps. the sks you posted is a 1956 model.
 
POPS said:
I believe you must have gotten your info from YOOPER JOHNS web site. TULA stopped sks production in 1956....... the crilliac A and REVERSED N are 1955/56. K after ser# is accepted as being East German. other Russian firearms produced AFTER 1956 had the crilliac N and A stamped on them,hence the confussion about a 1957/8 SKS . hope this helps. the sks you posted is a 1956 model.
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Yes, the classic argument is that Russia stopped production of the SKS45 in 56.

The new debate is that they continued to assemble SKS45 from existing parts in 56, 57, and 58.

The East German "K" reference you mention is a new one to me.
 
And the only East German rifles I've seen are the ones made there, and the DDR stamped Russian types, with the serial number stamped on the handguard, and the serial number on the stock being rotated 90 degrees clockwise.
 
fenceline said:
3 sided spikes are Chinese. 4 sided spikes are russian. The spike pictured is three sided, and is longer than the russian meaning it is Chinese. Reblued? It was never blued to begin with.

How did it get on there? Well that is bubba'd work.
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Yes very suspicious. I saw it when it was posted for sale and knew it was a Chinese bayo. When the fellow who bought it talked about it on the SKS Boards site I indicated it looked like a Chinese bayo. How a Chinese bayo got on a 49 is suspicious indeed. It should have never been sold as a 49 without declaring the fact that it had a three sided spike bayo not the cruciform (4 sided) Russian spike bayo. Or at least at a reduced price point.
 
So....someone was missing an authentic Russian spike bayo for their primo 1949 Tula, removed it and it was fitted with a Chinese one to disguise it. Or the Chinese one was attached later when it was noticed missing.
 
So, it was marked down, there were several pictures of the rifle on the site. I understand it was the last 49 he had, and likely the last one we will see again. He couldn't swap it for another one.

Didn't he offer you a refund if you sent it back?
..and what does this have to do with my latest great experience buying a rifle from them?
 
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