what still of training is this ?
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Basically, for the armor: when guys are participating in courses with people who are new to firearms/ learning, they offer an extra level of protection against any occurrences. Also, some guys to keep armor handy for "bumps in the night". This just means their training for it.
as for the gear, having extra mags on your person means you are not leaving the line to refill mags etc, missing things you have paid to hear/learn.
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Sounds like I've offended some mall-ninja types (cough TDC)
The training craze has reached new levels. Everyone and their mothers train like "operators" now because its the in thing to do. You blow hundreds of dollars on classes, thousands of dollars on ninja-gear, and all you'll ever likely do with your guns is shoot them at the range.
I've taken some pistol classes because I wanted to be a better shooter. It was money well spent. I didn't have illusions of becoming an 'operator'. Don't get me wrong, I understand the point of 'search and assess' but it doesn't make it any less funny that dudes do it at the range, after every drill. Dont cry
The training craze has reached new levels. Everyone and their mothers train like "operators" now because its the in thing to do. You blow hundreds of dollars on classes, thousands of dollars on ninja-gear, and all you'll ever likely do with your guns is shoot them at the range.
I've taken some pistol classes because I wanted to be a better shooter. It was money well spent. I didn't have illusions of becoming an 'operator'. Don't get me wrong, I understand the point of 'search and assess' but it doesn't make it any less funny that dudes do it at the range, after every drill. Dont cry
Funny thing about courses, you never know who the guy (or gal) beside you is, or what they do for a living - part of the fun, really. Sometimes it's an Optometrist, sometimes it's protective services contractor - sometimes it's both. Some folks just want to be really good at something, that's not a place you'll get to shooting 50 rounds a month from behind a bench, while being told you're not 'holster qualified' to the satisfaction of the retired janitor who's the acting RO for the day.
^^^ Words right out of my mouth...
Yup. Regardless of how legitimate it may or may not be, its still funny to watch. Your sense of humour may vary.
I do have to wonder how many of these folks just do it robotically, without really 'searching' or 'assessing' anything to their right or left. But hey, whatever floats your boat. Its the age of Costa et al, I s'pose.
Sounds like I've offended some mall-ninja types (cough TDC)
The training craze has reached new levels. Everyone and their mothers train like "operators" now because its the in thing to do. You blow hundreds of dollars on classes, thousands of dollars on ninja-gear, and all you'll ever likely do with your guns is shoot them at the range.
I've taken some pistol classes because I wanted to be a better shooter. It was money well spent. I didn't have illusions of becoming an 'operator'. Don't get me wrong, I understand the point of 'search and assess' but it doesn't make it any less funny that dudes do it at the range, after every drill. Dont cry
How is it any different than taking a golf lesson for example? 99% of people that do will never play on tour. Just like 99% of shooters will never see active duty.
If someone chooses a hobby that they love, and they want to be the best they can be at it, who are we to judge them? Sure, maybe it looks a little silly... but who cares? Isn't the whole point of a hobby to have FUN? To each their own man.
The Ronin guys loo like they have a solid course.
And yea, age of regular joe in COD rig learning those skills. Costa and the video shooters.
I try to do this style all season and it's probably within 90% of every other course which is within 90% of what Larry says is current.
Choose your Heros.
If it's an AR and a semi auto pistol or the like there are only so many movements. Being able to do them under a certain time is a good indicator of method learned.
We said 10 000 rounds to master two gun beginner and advanced if you are capable.
Same as 100 good entrys to a kill house before you learned that drill. So, about 150 entrys to a kill house.
What you learn you can continue to practice at your range within reason.
My range lets me move from point to point so I train with the gear I learned on.
First line and second line kit with plate carrier as I would use in gunfight.
I don't wear a helmet. I don't have a flashlight on my gun and I only do the head thing when I reload.
Suck it.
And yea, age of regular joe in COD rig learning those skills. Costa and the video shooters.
I try to do this style all season and it's probably within 90% of every other course which is within 90% of what Larry says is current.
Choose your Heros.
If it's an AR and a semi auto pistol or the like there are only so many movements. Being able to do them under a certain time is a good indicator of method learned.
We said 10 000 rounds to master two gun beginner and advanced if you are capable.
Same as 100 good entrys to a kill house before you learned that drill. So, about 150 entrys to a kill house.
What you learn you can continue to practice at your range within reason.
My range lets me move from point to point so I train with the gear I learned on.
First line and second line kit with plate carrier as I would use in gunfight.
I don't wear a helmet. I don't have a flashlight on my gun and I only do the head thing when I reload.
Suck it.
Did I say anything negative about training? No. I even said I took some courses myself, to better my skills as a shooter. My commentary was strictly about that one specific thing I found funny about all these training videos. Watch enough of them and you see the common fads and hype. The guys look like commandos and their facial expressions just add to the humour for me. It's funny, that's all. Im not commenting on usefulness, or the fact that its a wackload of fun.
I'm as much a Brinks guy as the fella in the video is the elite operator he's dressed to portray. Talk about missing the point...
It seems the others here have adequately and eloquently assessed this phenomenon; thanks knock-knock.
I don't think anyone here takes issue with training realistically, though you just acknowledged yourself some of it looks silly. A little criticism ought to be expected.BooSSted said:
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Your money your desires. I see no useful purpose for a collection unless you're a museum curator. I own tools, not toys.
You would have been(more than likely) practicing, not training.
I agree, there are many who simply do the motions without understanding their purpose or taking the time to do them properly.
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So I'm under the impression that you don't take a .22 out to the back 40 and do any plinking or gopher shooting then, eh? All work and no play....
My TOOLS are what I use to do my daily job. A few years ago, that meant the S&W Model 10 I was issued to "keep me and my customers safe" while handling cash and other negotiable items was just that. These days, now that I've traded my messenger bag for a tool box I shoot for fun. I will still train/practice/learn/whateverthe####youwannacallit just as hard in my free time while engaging in my hobby because I want to be as good as possible. It's in my nature to be competitive, and want to be the best. So I pay money for courses, go through the movements, ask questions about adapting a technique to fit me best, and do it.
I can say the same thing about my bike, too. It's not just a means of commuting, it's a ####ing TOY. It's an outlet. A means of relaxing and unwinding... something I strongly urge you to try doing for once.
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The "search and assess" stuff in these videos always gives me a chuckle. You're at the range. Its still the same as it was 2 seconds before you started your drill
The only thing funny about them is the fact that it's so exaggerated, almost to the point of being melodramatic. I had to do the same thing on my MSF for shoulder checks when stopped. But the exaggeration shows the instructor that you're actually DOING it. Once it becomes second nature, it's just a quick glance, and depending on how good your peripheral vision is, your head might not even move.
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That video makes me wish AR's were non-restricted.
