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Just bought a new cz redhead. The action lever is extremely stiff. I need a glove on and really crank on it. Should it come like this and how can I free it up. Does it need cleaning and if so how to get at this part. How long is that pin when fully extended. Thanks
 
I have read other threads where the discussion centered around the CZ's being very hard or stiff to open. Apparently, this is normal, to a degree. It will loosen up with use. However, yours sounds like it could be excessive. I had a CZ Canvasback in 20 gauge and it was not very hard to open from new.
 
I have a question for this group. I recently went to a sporting clay shoot. In the morning, I purchased a gun from my shooting partner, as he was buying a new one. But as I proceeded around the course that morning, I kept getting kicked in the cheek. In the past I have noticed a slight bump on my cheek with my old Ithaca o/u, but this year with the new Browning I had a skin raspberry and my cheek really began to swell. Now, two days later, my cheek is still swollen and fairly sore. Has anyone ever had this happen to them? I have been a shotgunner for most of my adult life, but I have never experienced any thing like this. My shouldering of the gun is pretty good, well so I think. I do pretty good at the clay pigeon range most days. But this new Browning sure kicks the hell out of my face.
 
Budzo100 said:
I have a question for this group. I recently went to a sporting clay shoot. In the morning, I purchased a gun from my shooting partner, as he was buying a new one. But as I proceeded around the course that morning, I kept getting kicked in the cheek. In the past I have noticed a slight bump on my cheek with my old Ithaca o/u, but this year with the new Browning I had a skin raspberry and my cheek really began to swell. Now, two days later, my cheek is still swollen and fairly sore. Has anyone ever had this happen to them? I have been a shotgunner for most of my adult life, but I have never experienced any thing like this. My shouldering of the gun is pretty good, well so I think. I do pretty good at the clay pigeon range most days. But this new Browning sure kicks the hell out of my face.
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Your stock does not fit you. Here is some info from shotgun world which was provided by a stock fitter in regards to a problem a fellow's wife was having regarding cheek slap.

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Cheek slap can have a number of possible causes with most relating to stock fit.

Pitch is the first thing to check. Pitch is the angle formed by the butt and the rib or barrel -close to 90 degrees. To check it, watch how the recoil pad makes contgact with your wife's shoulder as the gun is being mounted. If the bottom toe of the recoil pad makes contace well before the top of the recoil pad, you have identified at least one cause of her cheek slap.

Another possible cause is how your wife's cheek makes contact with the comb. Are her head and neck in an erect and naturally upright posture when she shoots? If she mounts the gun with the recoil pad below her collarbone and has to lean her neck forward and tilt her head back to put her cheek on the comb, it encourages cheek slap.

Try this: With her gun mounted, look at your wife's eye. Do this with your eye just beyond the muzzle. If the pupil of her eye is near the top of its eye socket, it indicates that your wife's head is tilted forward and that a mroe sensitive part of her cheek with more pain receptors, is making contact with the comb. It can encourage cheek slap.

Too much cheek pressure on the comb encurages cheek slap. So can raising the cheek off the comb during swings to targets.

The way your wife is shooting now is involved in the cheek slap she is experiencing. She changed the way she shoots and whatever change was, is involved both with her difficulty breaking targets and with the cheek slap she is experiencing.

The length of your wife's stock is correct if, when she mounts the gun with the recoil pad on and extending about an inch above her collarbone and her cheek on the stock, there is a distance of 1" to 1.25" between her nose and the second knuckle of her trgger-hand thumb. If there is much more separation than that, the stock is too long for her and should be shortened one-quarter of the excess separation.

If the stock is too long for your wife, she may be leaning her neck forward (crawling the stock) to put her cheek on the comb
 
Poppa Roberts said:
Just bought a new cz redhead. The action lever is extremely stiff. I need a glove on and really crank on it. Should it come like this and how can I free it up. Does it need cleaning and if so how to get at this part. How long is that pin when fully extended. Thanks
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Besides the issue with the action lever, how do you like that Redhead? I'm thinking of getting into some trap/skeet and don't want to break the bank on an O/U, but I don't want to buy junk. That CZ is on my list to check out.

Do any of you guys have any recommendations for good, solid O/U for around $1,000? Any help would be appreciated.
 
Vadman said:
Besides the issue with the action lever, how do you like that Redhead? I'm thinking of getting into some trap/skeet and don't want to break the bank on an O/U, but I don't want to buy junk. That CZ is on my list to check out.

Do any of you guys have any recommendations for good, solid O/U for around $1,000? Any help would be appreciated.
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A used Beretta or Browning if you want a $1000.00 trap gun.
 
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