Norinco is brass cased. It's crappy brass but it is brass. You may be thinking of MFS which is lacquered steel case.
Am I the only one that wont run cheap ammo such as Norc through my AR?
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Norinco is brass cased. It's crappy brass but it is brass. You may be thinking of MFS which is lacquered steel case.
You obviously have no clue to what you are talking about.
This is brass cased, non corrosive, FMJ.
They will not be able to tell it apart from any other .223/5.56 ammo besides looking at the headstamp.
I have a full progressive press setup and I collect once fired brass.
You, I, or anyone else wouldn't be able to tell the difference once they're reloaded besides how clean the reloaded brass is.
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Sorry boys! Yes, I thought we were talking about steel. I recently fired about 80 rounds of factory match ammo through my new M1A - but that is the only factory ammo I've shot in 20~30 years. I don't think I would bother with Norinco brass or ammo - not because it isn't any good (again, I don't know) - but because I have buckets of once-fired brass from the domestic manufacturers and I can brew up precision loads that will beat the quality of Norinco seven ways to Sunday.
Sorry boys, I know it's not nice to gloat (I will be available or pommelling and wedgies later) - but yesterday I scored 300+ rounds of once fired Federal .308 brass! Somebody must have been running a machine gun or fired his bolt gun till the barrel melted down! Sweet! In any event fellas - pick up your brass and take down your targets when you're done. It gives the club's old farts one less thing to ##### about, and they are mostly volunteers.
One of the upcoming chores at our club spring work party will be getting rid of the litter of 7.62x39 and 7.62 Tokarev steel cases. We use rolling magnets and rakes to get piles of the stuff.
In the spring shooters are expected to pick up their cases, but in the winter, thousands of them get buried in the snow. It's an ongoing issue, but we're glad to have the shooting activity.
In the spring shooters are expected to pick up their cases, but in the winter, thousands of them get buried in the snow. It's an ongoing issue, but we're glad to have the shooting activity.
My PAL was issues to me in January of 2011 so as you can see I haven't been shooting for very long.
Fortunately I began reloading around the same time and got into it in a very big way.
When Sandy Hook occurred in December of 2012 I only owned a Norinco AR in .233 and had on hand around 3,000 55gr bullets.
By March of 2013 I had ordered a case of 6,000 Hornady 55gr but this was at the height of the panic and I didn't know if or when I would receive my bullets.
A friend of mine ordered a few crates and I tacked on another 2 so that I wouldn't be the guy without ammo.
In the meantime I bought a Stag 3G so that I could put it on my form 6-NIA and began a Noveske build.
When the ammo came in I fired 1/2 a spam can through the Norinco and found it to be 100% reliable.
I then fired a couple of hundred rounds through the Stag with very good results 3moa standing unsupported 1.5moa off a bench with a rear bag.
At the end of August nearly 6 months after I ordered my Hornady bullets they finally arrived.
Not everyone has been reloading for 30 years and may have a large supply of everything they need already.
I can tell you that I am a lot better prepared than I was a year ago.
Let's not forget that most American ammo companies have had ammo recalls in the last year or two.
steel cased ammo is BY FAR the easiest to clean up if people don't pick up their brass. get one of the floor sweeping magnets, toss a cloth over it and roll it over the range it will pick up every steel case and leave you with the golden ground worth of brass which obviously is much better than steel.
If its gonna be banned for this reason only, I'd hate to see the collective IQ of the guys running your club......
Just to add to this, I had a membership at the vegreville gun club, and the man who interviewed me, yes a sit down interview at the range, had asked me if I intended to use an sks, or steel cased ammo as they wanted to ban them. He said nothing about 5.56, just the 7.62x39. I think usually that's the complaint. I sort of understand the frustration. I've witnessed it first hand at my range in Melville. Couple kids come to the range with an sks, and mint green boxes of stripper clipped corrosive ammo, and fire from the hip from 30 feet from the target. They blow the target supports apart, and shatter the beams running along the targets. Why you'd need to go to a range to do that is beyond me. Easily do that in the bush. And they always leave a mountain of steel all over, as they often don't shoot from the benches.
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Yep. And the way I figure it is that if we are going to ask volunteer old farts with bad backs to bend over and pick up this stuff, it isn't too much to ask the 20-somethings to do the same.
Don't forget that if there was ever a need for a recall on Norinco ammo you'd never know about it. Just like their rifles you have zero manufacturer support. Once they have your money you're on your own.
Don't base your opinion of Norinco ammo on half a spam can. Sounds like the biggest problem with it is that it's inconsistent at best. One case is good and the next has undersized projectiles and the next has primers falling out. If you're lucky those are the only problems. Some batches had bi-metal bullets and I've even heard of at least one guy opening up his case to find 308 armour piercing, lucky bastard
Don't forget that if there was ever a need for a recall on Norinco ammo you'd never know about it. Just like their rifles you have zero manufacturer support. Once they have your money you're on your own.
Don't base your opinion of Norinco ammo on half a spam can. Sounds like the biggest problem with it is that it's inconsistent at best. One case is good and the next has undersized projectiles and the next has primers falling out. If you're lucky those are the only problems. Some batches had bi-metal bullets and I've even heard of at least one guy opening up his case to find 308 armour piercing, lucky bastard
Sign me up for the AP rounds!!
Since October 2013, I've put 1500 rounds of norc 5.56 through my factory Bcm carbine. 600 rounds through a frankengun. 500 rounds through a factory armalite carbine, and another 300 through an 12.5" barrelled ACR. Have had zero failures that weren't purposefully induced during training courses. Haven't cleaned a barrel yet, finally got around to cleaning the BCGs last week.. Can't say much for accuracy degradation since I have nowhere to shoot beyond 50 yards, but I still hit what I aim at so can't really complain. It's cheap and it works. What more do you need? Just my 2 cents
Swapped 20 rds of American Eagle .223 today for 20 rds of brass case Norc .223.
At 50 yds I put 4 rds into a 1" group with a flyer 1" away that I attribute to my Mini 14's typical Ruger trigger pull. Not one failure to feed using different magazines. Oddly, it printed a full 5" lower than the American Eagle ammo at that distance. It was definitely more powerful than the American eagle ammo.
I think the lower point of impact is explained by the longer dwell time of the slower American eagle ammo coupled with the barrel whip on the Mini 14, even after I installed a SOCOM Accu-Strut and Choate flash hider.
Then I went back to the American eagle and printed 5 rds in a group 2-1/2", split into two separate groups as I've come to expect. I'll happily relieve anyone of their brass case Norc ammo - at a discount price, of course ... ;>)
At 50 yds I put 4 rds into a 1" group with a flyer 1" away that I attribute to my Mini 14's typical Ruger trigger pull. Not one failure to feed using different magazines. Oddly, it printed a full 5" lower than the American Eagle ammo at that distance. It was definitely more powerful than the American eagle ammo.
I think the lower point of impact is explained by the longer dwell time of the slower American eagle ammo coupled with the barrel whip on the Mini 14, even after I installed a SOCOM Accu-Strut and Choate flash hider.
Then I went back to the American eagle and printed 5 rds in a group 2-1/2", split into two separate groups as I've come to expect. I'll happily relieve anyone of their brass case Norc ammo - at a discount price, of course ... ;>)
