byf 44 vet bring back

jbmauser

jbmauser

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I've had this for a while now but am just finally getting around to posting it up. It's a byf 44 i block and most likely a vet bring back. I have no papers to prove this but the bad duffle/box cut between the bands makes it pretty likely. It could be repaired by cutting it back to under the lower band and using a donor stock front end but I think I'll just leave it the way it is. I like the idea of some GI cutting it to fit in his ship home box or duffle bag and to me it adds to the history.

It's all matching and the metal is in really nice condition. White glue stock and red glue hand guard.

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So are you telling me to forget the stock market and invest in mausers ? :D

You must have a museum going with all the examples you have found.
 
I would agree......it is better to leave it as it is , history is always an important aspect of any military firearm.....a good find.... ENJOY !
 
Mike Webb said:
Nice Oberndorf. Why didn't they cut it under the sling band? I could never figure that out. BTW is the sling band mounted upside down?
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I've seen "duffle cuts" done in all sorts of weird places. Obviously the under band ones are the most desirable and don't affect value like visible ones do. As bad cuts go, this one is not horrible as it could be repaired with a new front section. Some are cut behind the lower band which pretty much makes a good repair impossible.

I really don't mind this one too much so it'll probably just stay the way it is.

The lower band is on correctly. It's just one of MO's different numbering patterns.
 
Did you replace that extractor or did it come on the rifle?

That extractor would be a red flag for me. The chemicals the Russians used for "Blackening" were often used colder than was needed to get a black finish and ended up with a plum colored finish instead.

I'm not saying it's a Russian Capture. I do think the extractor was replaced though. I had one very similar to yours but it was cut at the wrist of the butt. The extractor was broken and the only replacement I could find, was a RC plum colored piece. Not unusual to find these with broken or replaced extractors.

Nice rifle by the way, good score.
 
bearhunter said:
Did you replace that extractor or did it come on the rifle?

That extractor would be a red flag for me. The chemicals the Russians used for "Blackening" were often used colder than was needed to get a black finish and ended up with a plum colored finish instead.

I'm not saying it's a Russian Capture. I do think the extractor was replaced though. I had one very similar to yours but it was cut at the wrist of the butt. The extractor was broken and the only replacement I could find, was a RC plum colored piece. Not unusual to find these with broken or replaced extractors.

Nice rifle by the way, good score.
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Plum colored extractors are normal on an original matching German K98k. I have several. I also have no doubts this is the original extractor to this gun. It matches condition wise and the wear patterns are consistent to the amount of use this gun has seen.

You can find all sorts of colors on original German extractors ranging from blued, phosphate, straw colored, and plum.

You can also find all sorts of colors on RC's as well.
 
It's quite common for wartime made German K98's and other pistols (P.38's) to have plum colored parts. You see it later in the war. It is due to the temper, nickel content and the hardening.

I also have a matching b block byf 44 with a plum extractor.
 
jbmauser said:
Plum colored extractors are normal on an original matching German K98k. I have several. I also have no doubts this is the original extractor to this gun. It matches condition wise and the wear patterns are consistent to the amount of use this gun has seen.

You can find all sorts of colors on original German extractors ranging from blued, phosphate, straw colored, and plum.

You can also find all sorts of colors on RC's as well.
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I learn something new every day. My byf 44 has a black extractor and the 2 digits stamped on the top side of the claw match the last 2 digits of the rest of the all matching numbers.
 
bearhunter said:
I learn something new every day. My byf 44 has a black extractor and the 2 digits stamped on the top side of the claw match the last 2 digits of the rest of the all matching numbers.
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There is an unbelievable amount of stuff to learn about German K98k's. I've only scratched the surface compared to some guys.

I'm guessing your byf 44 is an early letter block by the numbered extractor? Numbering the extractor was dropped early 44 by MO.

While plum parts are more common later, my byf 42 has a fantastic plum extractor and the plum color shows up even earlier on some stuff.
 
jbmauser said:
There is an unbelievable amount of stuff to learn about German K98k's. I've only scratched the surface compared to some guys.

I'm guessing your byf 44 is an early letter block by the numbered extractor? Numbering the extractor was dropped early 44 by MO.

While plum parts are more common later, my byf 42 has a fantastic plum extractor and the plum color shows up even earlier on some stuff.
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No letter block just a four digit number starting with 5 and ending with 12. The finish is much better as well.
 
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