234 Wildcat Family....ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY

Not illegal to sell reloads privately in small quantity to the best of my knowledge. Doing it commercially would be another story without a ton of paperwork and licences. Normally wouldn't want to buy reloads though.. unless you know and trust the person's knowledge and care in making them.
 
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When El Gatto is away, the mice will play.
Look what showed up today..........................:dancingbanana:

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And for comparison, I grabbed a few to lay beside.
Can you guess them?
The four shiny ones are Douglas's.
What the heck do you use to get them clean like this?...........:redface:

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The circled ones are the 23's.

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Some of the boxes the displayed ones came in.
Too bad some of you folks that crave the KKSP don't live locko.

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That Penguin sure looks like it could move along quite nicely.

Kewl suds to yu'all, tizz Friday, so play nice and safe.......... :wave:
 
Hey Looky, glad you got 'em so quick.....no 23-06 there that military case is a 6.5X55, I sent you a 23-08, 2 Penguins and a 230 Douglas (23-284) One penguin is 100 gn FB and the other with the smaller point opening is a 90 gn RBT, as is the 23-08 and the 230 Douglas.
I used Brasso on a rag with a cordless chucked on the bullet, they come out pretty nice for show, eh !!!
 
Right you are. I seen a 270, but it's 027.

Neck is a wee bit different on the two Penguins.
But they will find themselves.

The x55 and 08 cases are so close.
Chrony prints are going to prove interesting.

Next trip to the eastern front, I'll show the gunpowder feller.
Heck of an endeavor there Douglas.

:cheers:
 
Actually, this is where I meant to post. Remember, I was interested in your .234 project, but I'm not a handloader and you indicated that myself or a friend would have to handload cartridges.

Handloading is something you might consider. A modest outfit can be arranged for about the cost of a Savage Axis. As your interest grows, and it will, you can expand your outfit to increase your production or precision, or both. Handloading is a rewarding past time in its own right, but it also makes one's shooting much more interesting, and allows each dollar you would otherwise spend on expensive factory ammo, go further, and it can take up no more room than say a Workmate used as a loading bench, or for that matter you can use handtools at the kitchen table.

In the meantime, it is technically illegal to manufacture commercial ammunition without the correct licensing from NRC, but such things are difficult to enforce, and to the best of my knowledge, there is no law against being int he possession of handloads even though you own no reloading equipment. One must consider the liability though of using unproven handloads in your particular rifle, both for the handloader and for the shooter. If you are injured and/or your rifle is damaged by a handload, what would be your next step? Litigation is expensive for all concerned, making the purchase of a few hundred dollars worth of tooling seem cheap by comparison.

Simply join the fold, and buy some gear to make ammo that is appropriate for the rifles you own. Wildcatting is not an insignificant benefit as you can see from this exercise, a simple reduction of .01" in bullet diameter from a 6mm has us all as giddy as school girls.

Doug, in terms of cartridge design, it might be interesting to add a Weatherby venturi shoulder to your .234 Penguin. There's just enough logic to the argument that a ballistic advantage can be gained from that design to make it interesting, and a conventional shoulder should fire form to shape. I suppose one could neck down a .240 Bee, although I dislike the cost of the brass.
 
Handloading is something you might consider. A modest outfit can be arranged for about the cost of a Savage Axis. As your interest grows, and it will, you can expand your outfit to increase your production or precision, or both. Handloading is a rewarding past time in its own right, but it also makes one's shooting much more interesting, and allows each dollar you would otherwise spend on expensive factory ammo, go further, and it can take up no more room than say a Workmate used as a loading bench, or for that matter you can use handtools at the kitchen table.

In the meantime, it is technically illegal to manufacture commercial ammunition without the correct licensing from NRC, but such things are difficult to enforce, and to the best of my knowledge, there is no law against being int he possession of handloads even though you own no reloading equipment. One must consider the liability though of using unproven handloads in your particular rifle, both for the handloader and for the shooter. If you are injured and/or your rifle is damaged by a handload, what would be your next step? Litigation is expensive for all concerned, making the purchase of a few hundred dollars worth of tooling seem cheap by comparison.

Simply join the fold, and buy some gear to make ammo that is appropriate for the rifles you own. Wildcatting is not an insignificant benefit as you can see from this exercise, a simple reduction of .01" in bullet diameter from a 6mm has us all as giddy as school girls.

Doug, in terms of cartridge design, it might be interesting to add a Weatherby venturi shoulder to your .234 Penguin. There's just enough logic to the argument that a ballistic advantage can be gained from that design to make it interesting, and a conventional shoulder should fire form to shape. I suppose one could neck down a .240 Bee, although I dislike the cost of the brass.


Boomer;

The Weatherby venturied shoulder may have a place in the future, right now all I want is to get some 23s up and shooting. I think if I were to venturi a shoulder I would use a 6mm Rem case and take advantage of the long neck. This would kinda equate to an Ackley improved 6mm but with venturied shoulder, might be interesting or as BUM would say now "tres cool" :cool:

Good advice to BF870, but you forgot to tell him to make sure he befriends a gunnut divorce lawyer...............;)LOL
 
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Well gentlemen, I have in hand 3 23 cal SS barrel blanks with a 1-8 twist, 27.5" long and ready to contour and chamber and thread onto an action...............I stopped into my friends place for a couple days and we cranked out some barrels, we're off to the races.............
 
You have new barrels for new wildcats so do you have a new powder shovel to load up rounds?Laugh2

You and BUM can both bite me.....................:):):p

The 5 gal powder shovel I have is a one size fits all right from 17 to 50 cal so I'm good, but I might need a smaller longer drop tube............with a larger hopper on it!!

The barrels look excellent almost like chrome lined, they came out superb. We lost the first one to a bad chattering reamer but my buddy knows a lot about this game and has had this happen before so he ordered a spare. After some finessing the next 3 turned out absolutely perfect. Now all I have to do is get back home and get them on the lathe. I should be flinging 234 bullets by the middle of June and possibly even earlier.

These barrels will become a Lynx, a 23-08 and a 230 Douglas............Penguin will have to wait until I can get a reamer made.......no time right now.
 
You and BUM can both bite me.....................:):):p

The 5 gal powder shovel I have is a one size fits all right from 17 to 50 cal so I'm good, but I might need a smaller longer drop tube............with a larger hopper on it!!

The barrels look excellent almost like chrome lined, they came out superb. We lost the first one to a bad chattering reamer but my buddy knows a lot about this game and has had this happen before so he ordered a spare. After some finessing the next 3 turned out absolutely perfect. Now all I have to do is get back home and get them on the lathe. I should be flinging 234 bullets by the middle of June and possibly even earlier.

These barrels will become a Lynx, a 23-08 and a 230 Douglas............Penguin will have to wait until I can get a reamer made.......no time right now.

This is getting more exciting all the time, much better than Christmas!!!!

Doug
 
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