The legality of AA .50 Beowulf Magazines?
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The PCV do not have RCMP approval. That's why they are not allowed to be sold in the EE. Possessing those is playing with fire... Just because the RCMP hasn't shut them down yet, doesn't mean that they won't. This company has produced a prohibited device in the past, and rivets them after the fact. (I know, stupid laws, but still the law)
The E-Lander mags are not "manufactured" identically to the Alexander Arms mags. Those are .223 mag tubes, with an anti-tilt .223 follower, and .50 Beowulf stamped on the side. They are the same magazine that the company uses for their .223 mags, therefore "Dual Purpose".
Alexander Arms manufactures their mags specifically for the .50 Beowulf cartridge and they clearly state that they are NOT compatible with the .223 cartridge. The follower is modified on these so that they will "only" cycle .50 Beowulf cartridges. The RCMP has no choice but to honour these, because they are legitimately manufactured by the company that makes the .50 Beowulf cartridge. Therefore NOT dual purpose.
We don't have to agree with the way these rules/laws are applied, but that is the rational behind the RCMP decisions. Hope it makes a bit more sense now.
The E-Lander mags are not "manufactured" identically to the Alexander Arms mags. Those are .223 mag tubes, with an anti-tilt .223 follower, and .50 Beowulf stamped on the side. They are the same magazine that the company uses for their .223 mags, therefore "Dual Purpose".
Alexander Arms manufactures their mags specifically for the .50 Beowulf cartridge and they clearly state that they are NOT compatible with the .223 cartridge. The follower is modified on these so that they will "only" cycle .50 Beowulf cartridges. The RCMP has no choice but to honour these, because they are legitimately manufactured by the company that makes the .50 Beowulf cartridge. Therefore NOT dual purpose.
We don't have to agree with the way these rules/laws are applied, but that is the rational behind the RCMP decisions. Hope it makes a bit more sense now.
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who cares where do i buy pcv pvc mags from pronto people
Google will show you the way.
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- chilliwack BC.
I don't believe they are actually a prohibited device. It clearly is for .50Beo. its not stamped, its not a sticker or carved in. its cast right in the body of the magazine. And it clearly will not take 6 rounds of its intended cartridge.
Do you guys think a real, legitimate business would risk loosing EVERYTHING and facing trafficking in prohibited weapons parts just to make a few thousand bucks? They have a thousand on hand, give or take. Even if they make $10 on each one, after design, manufacturing, shipping, taxes, legal costs, staffing, store overhead, advertising, packaging etc, that's only 10 grand. yes its a lot of money, but not for a business and not to loose absolutely everything over.
Do you guys think a real, legitimate business would risk loosing EVERYTHING and facing trafficking in prohibited weapons parts just to make a few thousand bucks? They have a thousand on hand, give or take. Even if they make $10 on each one, after design, manufacturing, shipping, taxes, legal costs, staffing, store overhead, advertising, packaging etc, that's only 10 grand. yes its a lot of money, but not for a business and not to loose absolutely everything over.
beananator
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these are good mags . As for legal - I have personally seen these for sale on the shelf of a site sponsor EVEN thou it can't be mentioned here.
- these have been for sale for a while now and stocked on store front shelves other than the manufacturer . The RCMP are not going to publicly announce for every magazine made / imported " legal " or otherwise for every rifle - every caliber ever made from the beginning of time . Does anyone have the bulletin showing the buttler creek 10/22 mags are legal ? or the CCA 10rd pistol mags that fit into AR's ? from the RCMP - NO --- so allot of people are on the fence waiting for a thumbs-up from the boys in blue in writing but own other aftermarket magazines WITHOUT a formal declaration by the RCMP saying LEGAL.
50 Beowulf uppers exist - these need mags - they work in something else - so what
- these have been for sale for a while now and stocked on store front shelves other than the manufacturer . The RCMP are not going to publicly announce for every magazine made / imported " legal " or otherwise for every rifle - every caliber ever made from the beginning of time . Does anyone have the bulletin showing the buttler creek 10/22 mags are legal ? or the CCA 10rd pistol mags that fit into AR's ? from the RCMP - NO --- so allot of people are on the fence waiting for a thumbs-up from the boys in blue in writing but own other aftermarket magazines WITHOUT a formal declaration by the RCMP saying LEGAL.
50 Beowulf uppers exist - these need mags - they work in something else - so what
Well said. I dont need the approval of the RCMP to have fun at the range.
Some people are so cautious, that there gonna ruined it for the rest of us in the name of safety by poking the bear and asking the RCMP to police them.
Some people are so cautious, that there gonna ruined it for the rest of us in the name of safety by poking the bear and asking the RCMP to police them.
andrew3081
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From what one dealer told me, AA will not export to Canada anymore because RCMP will not approve the import...so no the RCMP is not 'honoring' the AA .50 beuwolf magazines.
The issue is that these mags are produced SPECIFICALLY to circumvent a Canadian law and they are not produced to work "only" with .50 Beowulf cartridges. You're right in saying that we don't need RCMP approval for everything, but when you get caught with a mag that holds 15 rounds of .223 and you DON'T have that approval, you're going to be in a load of ####... Is that likely to happen? Maybe not. But I for one will not take that chance, and I certainly won't be the one that they make an example of.
IMO, possessing these mags is insane. Everyone is in control of their own destiny though.
beananator
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We have so few privileges left - every time we turn around there taking something else away ( SA & 858 recently ) . Eventually they'll take away the last of our fun and beat us down in the name of PC & safety and sterilize the future generations , I even see bugs bunny cartoons with disclaimer's and warnings , my son was told it's not PC to say merry Christmas .
Buy your toys now and lots of ammo - go out and shoot them , have fun , warm the barrels and smile
Buy your toys now and lots of ammo - go out and shoot them , have fun , warm the barrels and smile
You we not correctly informed. AA won't export directly to Canada because they have an endless backorder of US sales. The owner at AA openly stated that he doesn't care to deal with Canada. They're a relatively small company that doesn't have much intention of growing to its full potential.
andrew3081
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- Vancouver, BC
Well, the Canadian importer for AA magazines lied to me then.
