Another newbie with a S&W MP9 - question

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Thanks everyone who answered my questions concerning the trigger on my new MP9 I bought two days ago. I have another question and again, any comments and opinions are welcome.

My MP9 does not have a manual thumb safety or an internal lock. I guess it's hard to warp my head around the idea of no manual safety. If anyone who owns or is familiar with the MP9 and shoots competition what do you do?
My thought is load the mag, do not chamber a round. In your position in the shooting booth/cell chamber a round and proceed to fire. Not being able to thumb that safety on seems strange.

Thank you in advance.

Chris in RD AB
 
In every shooting discipline that I've ever taken part in your firearm is to remain holstered and unloaded(ie. no mag inserted) until you are on the firing line and under control of the SO/RO. Only once you are commanded to "Load and Make Ready" should you insert a mag, chamber a round and re holster/ready your firearm. Once finished your stage you will "Unload and Show Clear" and then leave the line with your firearm holstered and unloaded.

As far as the lack of safety goes, as an owner of 3 Glocks, an M&P and with a HK45 LEM on the way, I follow the following 4 safety rules:
1. Keep your finger off the trigger,
2. Keep your finger off the f'n trigger,
3. Keep your f'n finger off the trigger,
And 4. Keep your f'n finger off the f'n trigger.
 
shikano53 said:
...If anyone who owns or is familiar with the MP9 and shoots competition what do you do?
My thought is load the mag, do not chamber a round. In your position in the shooting booth/cell chamber a round and proceed to fire. Not being able to thumb that safety on seems strange.

Thank you in advance.

Chris in RD AB
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Most ranges are designated as "cold" ranges by club rules. Meaning: You're not walking around with a loaded magazine or loaded chamber. When you step up to the line and it's time to shoot, then you load. And unload again when you're done.

Usually.
 
k22236821 said:
In every shooting discipline that I've ever taken part in your firearm is to remain holstered and unloaded(ie. no mag inserted) until you are on the firing line and under control of the SO/RO. Only once you are commanded to "Load and Make Ready" should you insert a mag, chamber a round and re holster/ready your firearm. Once finished your stage you will "Unload and Show Clear" and then leave the line with your firearm holstered and unloaded.

As far as the lack of safety goes, as an owner of 3 Glocks, an M&P and with a HK45 LEM on the way, I follow the following 4 safety rules:
1. Keep your finger off the trigger,
2. Keep your finger off the f'n trigger,
3. Keep your f'n finger off the trigger,
And 4. Keep your f'n finger off the f'n trigger.
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Good and sound rules. I think I just incorporated them into my safety mantra.
Chris
 
k22236821 said:
In every shooting discipline that I've ever taken part in your firearm is to remain holstered and unloaded(ie. no mag inserted) until you are on the firing line and under control of the SO/RO. Only once you are commanded to "Load and Make Ready" should you insert a mag, chamber a round and re holster/ready your firearm. Once finished your stage you will "Unload and Show Clear" and then leave the line with your firearm holstered and unloaded.

As far as the lack of safety goes, as an owner of 3 Glocks, an M&P and with a HK45 LEM on the way, I follow the following 4 safety rules:
1. Keep your finger off the trigger,
2. Keep your finger off the f'n trigger,
3. Keep your f'n finger off the trigger,
And 4. Keep your f'n finger off the f'n trigger.
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Funny, that is almost verbatim what I tell new shooters before I hand them a gun.
 
The first and most important safety on every firearm is YOU! Everything else is secondary.

Like others have said, "keep your booger picker off the bang stick" and all should be good.

(E) :cool:
 
The M&P has a manual saftey, it's just incorporated into the trigger. That's the point of the articulation of the lower half of the trigger, if it doesn't pull back, the mechanism is blocked. Unless the trigger is deliberately pulled, the firearm can't discharge. The same as a glock, XD, Sigma, the list goes on. Very few striker fired handguns have a manual saftey. Those that do had it added to meet a agency requirement or military requirement for adoption.

As stated, keep your finger off the go switch if you don't want it to go. I actually prefer firearms this way...there's no "duh....i thought the saftey was on....." You KNOW the saftey is YOU not pulling the trigger.
 
I carry a M&P CORE - no thumb safety as my daily CCW and LE Duty gun - the only time the gun is not hot is during cleaning.

no issues -- same as a Glock...
 
enefgee said:
Once you're used to using a Glock, or M&P (or anything else similar) the presence of a thumb safety, grip safety etc becomes a huge negative. I used to love the 1911, now it stays home.
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Disagree: I think it's personal preference. Though most people would probably share your preference.

If I could afford 45 ammo, I would use a 1911 as my primary competition gun, partly because I prefer that safety system. There's nothing wrong with the Glock/M&P safety system (IMO), but it is different, and I would prefer to use a 1911 for my current application (gun games).

I've been shooting an M&P as my primary for a couple of years (without the thumb safety), and if I were to do it all over again I think I would go with the thumb safety version.
 
alpining said:
Disagree: I think it's personal preference. Though most people would probably share your preference.

If I could afford 45 ammo, I would use a 1911 as my primary competition gun, partly because I prefer that safety system. There's nothing wrong with the Glock/M&P safety system (IMO), but it is different, and I would prefer to use a 1911 for my current application (gun games).

I've been shooting an M&P as my primary for a couple of years (without the thumb safety), and if I were to do it all over again I think I would go with the thumb safety version.
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Good point. And I agree that it is personal preference and what you MAKE yourself used to. IE: Train like you shoot, shoot like you train.

A perfect example. I ride motorcycles. Have for over 35 years. I am extremely grateful for all those people who took me out in the twisties and literally taught me how to properly ride the curves. It has saved my life on a few occasions, and their collective, four point admonition.
1) Practice
2) Practice
3) Practice
4) see above.

Chris in RD AB
 
alpining said:
If I could afford 45 ammo, I would use a 1911 as my primary competition gun, partly because I prefer that safety system. There's nothing wrong with the Glock/M&P safety system (IMO), but it is different, and I would prefer to use a 1911 for my current application (gun games).
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There are other flavours of 1911 out there. You don't have to shoot .45. A 1911 in 9mm is hard to beat.
 
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