How many years is the Black Badge Certification good for in IPSC ?

Besides competition do shooters opt for the BB course to enable holster use at various ranges due to their regs?
 
I found that the BB course offers GREAT coaching value for what they cost. But then again, I may have been spoiled by my instructors... They helped everyone really improve their skills when I attended my BB.
 
SgtMjr said:
Besides competition do shooters opt for the BB course to enable holster use at various ranges due to their regs?
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I would. The club I'm at, has its own holster course. But it's not good for anything outside of the club. Might as well do the BB, since they recognize that.
 
SgtMjr said:
Besides competition do shooters opt for the BB course to enable holster use at various ranges due to their regs?
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Yes. This is the only reason I do the BB course. If someone questions me on a range I will just dazzle them with paperwork & certificates. When they are satisfied I am good to go I will then ask them why they are qualified. ;)
 
In alberta i was told you have to competite in a match or the BB membership will expire in 2 years. I just did it to learn techniques, there is no holster qualification at my range, anybody can use one.
 
GunGuy34 said:
In alberta i was told you have to competite in a match or the BB membership will expire in 2 years. I just did it to learn techniques, there is no holster qualification at my range, anybody can use one.
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who told you this, as it is incorrect. If you haven't shot in two then you have to requalify with a BB instructor. Requalification will depend on each individual's experience for example someone who has been shooting in an active IPSC League will requalify a lot quicker then someone who has not shot in two years.
 
There's one, Jamaica is doing it as well.
I'll admit I'm on the fence with the necessity of the BB, but many times I am shown why we need when I see new shooters do really dumb things. However it's always after they've done the BB that we see them do dumb stuff at a match. Is the BB really the only answer? I'm not sure. However the rules are the rules, so either follow them or play somewhere else.
 
Slavex said:
There's one, Jamaica is doing it as well.
I'll admit I'm on the fence with the necessity of the BB, but many times I am shown why we need when I see new shooters do really dumb things. However it's always after they've done the BB that we see them do dumb stuff at a match. Is the BB really the only answer? I'm not sure. However the rules are the rules, so either follow them or play somewhere else.
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It's not how much dumb crap we see with the course... think of how much dumb crap we'd see without it!
 
mechanik said:
It's not how much dumb crap we see with the course... think of how much dumb crap we'd see without it!
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Honestly, I don't think the course made me a safer shooter, but it made me a lot better shooter. That's why I'm glad I took it. The safety training is something that could easily be done at the club level and is being done routinely that way in a good number of regions.

Edit: Just wanted to note that the reason it didn't make me a safer shooter is simply that I've always big on sticking to the club-level safety policies, so I was pre-conditioned in terms of muzzle/trigger-finger control. Actually my entire BB group was very good in that respect.
 
TRaTSeRiF said:
Honestly, I don't think the course made me a safer shooter, but it made me a lot better shooter. That's why I'm glad I took it. The safety training is something that could easily be done at the club level and is being done routinely that way in a good number of regions.
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For some it won't do much, sure. It's meant to provide a baseline for everyone. I've assisted at some courses and trust me, so people definitely need it.
 
One thing that's being overlooked here and Mechanik is kind of hitting on it - the BB is actually a certification more than a course; it tells the rest of the people on the range at an IPSC event that you will be safe under the pressure of competition and during the event as a whole.
 
Freedom Ventures said:
One thing that's being overlooked here and Mechanik is kind of hitting on it - the BB is actually a certification more than a course; it tells the rest of the people on the range at an IPSC event that you will be safe under the pressure of competition and during the event as a whole.
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I'm not saying that standardized safety certification shouldn't be implemented. Actually, I'm highly in favor of it. All I'm saying is that it can be handled at the club level, like all other disciplines. The way it's set up right now, getting into a BB course involves a lot of sniping (that's where I'm fortunate to have access to my personal e-mail while working), a bit of luck and either a motel stay or a LONG commute for most of us. On a good note, it also involved a lot of great coaching from excellent instructors and making friends, so I'm glad I took it in the end.
 
silverfoxdj said:
Agree BB is usefull and it should be widely available and affordable to all shooters irrespective of whether you compete or not.
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There would be a lot more availability and accessibility of the BB if the only people that took it were the target audience; future IPSC shooters.
It's flattering that it's useful to others, but the course / certification was developed for IPSC and that's where the instructors and sections should be targeting it.
My section filters out people that aren't planning on shooting IPSC; instructors are at capacity and future competitors are the priority.
 
Freedom Ventures said:
There would be a lot more availability and accessibility of the BB if the only people that took it were the target audience; future IPSC shooters.
It's flattering that it's useful to others, but the course / certification was developed for IPSC and that's where the instructors and sections should be targeting it.
My section filters out people that aren't planning on shooting IPSC; instructors are at capacity and future competitors are the priority.
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Yup... Given we don't have enough course slots already for the people that DO want to shoot IPSC and stay with it, wasting slots on people that will just take the course and disappear is counterproductive.
 
I remember taking my restricted firearms course a few years ago and half the people there said they were taking it for their BB. I haven't seen a single one of them at a match.
 
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