Not allowed to sell any IVI components anymore on the EE? Why?

an explanation is in order. short of a huge robbery of ivi ammo (one would think they would ktms and watch ee) I can't think of the reasoning for this, waiting...
 
after a little thought I think we are close to an answer. tinfoil hat time boys.
ivi is now owned by snc lavalin. anti freedom/anti gun bunch full of slimy goodness. I suspect that is why dnd is destroying (demiling) perfectly good legal brass- just check out crown assets site - lots of brass for sale that some poor smuck has to crush the neck or drill a hole. can't believe harper is allowing this waste of money for a legal product. 223, 308 and 50 brass with the necks crushed? for what? it is a legal product worth far more intact than scrapped. I sure wish I had a party I could vote for. Nice if we had a police force that would investigate these types of graft.
 
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Ammunition bearing the IVI headstamp is manufactured by GD OTS, not SNC.

DND doesn't crush or drill or mutilate small arms cartridge cases. They are sold as scrap, but are only sold to smelters. DND won't sell the brass to be reloaded for a variety of reasons. .50 cal brass may or may not be demilitarized by crushing, drilling, etc. (the policy is not clear) Anything larger than .50 cal will be demilitarized, policy is clear for larger than .50 cal.
 
iltissaskatoon said:
Who? no point in banging our heads. Who pulled this pin and why? lets get a name and reason. tons of ivi from the rangers in 303 floating around. If it is illegal then I would guess the sellers are in trouble... lets see how that boat floats. If the mods are not prepared to step up then wtf?. Mods reply please.
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no ####...i find the 303 brass and always pick it up. i guess i better hand it in at once! :rolleyes:
 
negative on all - check the crown assets site. yes larger than 50 demilled but check for sale/sold. anyone can buy 50 and under, limitations on who you can sell to (sometimes). seems like they are making it up as they go...
 
When DND disposes of brass it is stipulated that it must go to a smelter. If it is not or is being sold to someone else then PWGSC dropped the ball. I just checked GCSurplus for one of the latest sales and didn't see any restriction about having to be sold to a smelter or broker who will ensure it goes to a smelter. I am 100% certain that when that brass was put up for disposal it was stipulated in the documentation.
 
can I give it away on the EE and charge a ridiculous amount of shipping?? I am not selling the brass, just profiting from the handling charges.........
 
Ah good OL' CGN....one of the sponsors probably complained....

Wait for the nonsensical explanation or the "we are Cgn we don't need to explain anything to our minion....if you don't like it gtfo"
 
I'll attempt a response that you folks may or may not accept...

The concern over IVI brass is it's lineage.

Plain & simple.

Cheers
Jay
 
I'll add a bit more to Jay's explanation.
Salvaged IVI brass is sold in large quantities. Anyone buying it by the ton is planning on reselling it for profit. That is business.
Such salvaged brass sold as scrap by the gov't obviously has a legal pedigree.
CGN will not allow the sale of current issue gov't property unless its lineage is clear.
 
Makes sense, one of the most annoying things for use in military is the sale of CADPAT uniforms to the public. It is a criminal code offense to possess regulation CADPAT and not be a member of the Canadian Forces. I hope you will enforce that as well as it is an extension of this rule.
 
still as clear as mud ....... lets say a guy goes to a range , makeshift in a gravel pit , or official ...and see's several hundred 303 ii brass left abandoned , littered on the ground .
he picks them up , is he now in possession of a illegal substance ?
 
burnt_servo said:
still as clear as mud ....... lets say a guy goes to a range , makeshift in a gravel pit , or official ...and see's several hundred 303 ii brass littered on the ground .
he picks them up , is he now in possession of a illegal substance ?
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Completely irrelevant. CGN policy applies to the sale of this material on CGN.
 
Jay said:
I'll attempt a response that you folks may or may not accept...

The concern over IVI brass is it's lineage.

Plain & simple.

Cheers
Jay
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it all comes down to the lineage, that's what they said about the Swiss Arms. Just leaves a ba taste in my mouth.
 
fraserdw said:
Makes sense, one of the most annoying things for use in military is the sale of CADPAT uniforms to the public. It is a criminal code offense to possess regulation CADPAT and not be a member of the Canadian Forces. I hope you will enforce that as well as it is an extension of this rule.
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What section of the code makes it illegal to possess regulation cadpat?
 
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