Is there a Limit to buying gun powder?

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I bought a couple 1lb containers this week-end and since I`m an hour away from the good shops, I asked if they had more. They said yes so I decided to double my purchase to 4lbs and they said they could not sell more than 2lbs to a person. REALLY???? This shop was in Regina.
 
nope, thats just a store policy to stop hoarding

legal stand point (simple version)

Storage by an individual who is not licensed as an explosives magazine:

- at a home, a detached house, is not to exceed 10 kg in the aggregate


- if kept in a separate out building dedicated to the storage of gun powder then the storage can be up to 75 kg in the aggregate (this is a detached store)
 
your limit is what you can find and afford. i'm slowed down by budget sometimes not storage space. got another 8lbs of 4350 coming.
 
There is a legal limit, depending on how you store it. Go read the regulations here.

The limit is different if you store it in 1 lb containers vs. 8 lb containers.

But in any case, it's way more than 2 lbs. That's just your store trying to be intelligent about how they sell stock to make sure customers have a reason to visit them.
 
My preferred local shop has the same limit to prevent hoarding. They literally have endless requests to buy out entire shipments of a favourite powder. 30 customers happy to get 2 lbs is better than 29 who waited months and got nothing.
 
The limit is different if you store it in 1 lb containers vs. 8 lb containers.

Thanks for your link. Can you point out the part (quote section please) about 8 pound containers? I found references to 1kg containers but that is all.
Storage
Marginal note:Licensed user
297. (1) A user who holds a licence must store their propellant powder, percussion caps and black powder cartouches in the magazine specified in their licence.

Marginal note:Separate storage
(2) A user must not store propellant powder and percussion caps in the same magazine.

Marginal note Unlicensed user
298. A user who does not hold a licence must store their propellant powder, percussion caps and black powder cartouches in a dwelling or a Footnote *storage unit and ensure that the requirements of sections 299 to 304 are met.

Note: Subsection 279(2) provides that users must store small arms cartridges in accordance with sections 280 and 281.

Return to footnote *Terms preceded by an asterisk are defined in section 6.

Marginal note:percussion caps
299. (1) Percussion caps must be stored in their original packaging.

Note: These Regulations do not limit the number of percussion caps that may be stored in their original packaging in a dwelling or a Footnote *storage unit.

Marginal note:Smokeless powder
(2) Smokeless powder must be stored in its original container or in small arms cartridges.

Marginal note:Black powder
(3) Black powder must be stored in its original container, in small arms cartridges or in black powder cartouches.

Return to footnote *Terms preceded by an asterisk are defined in section 6.

Marginal note:Maximum quantity
300. The maximum quantity of propellant powder that may be stored by a user at any one time under sections 301 to 303 is reduced by the quantity of any propellant powder that the user is storing under section 375 and any quantity that they are storing under section 389.

Marginal note Detached dwellings
301. The maximum quantity of propellant powder that may be stored at any one time in a detached dwelling, or in a Footnote *storage unit attached to a detached dwelling, is 25 kg of which no more than 10 kg may be black powder.

Return to footnote *Terms preceded by an asterisk are defined in section 6.

Marginal note:Other dwellings — smokeless powder
302. (1) The maximum quantity of smokeless powder that may be stored at any one time in a dwelling other than a detached dwelling, or in a storage unit attached to a dwelling other than a detached dwelling, is

(a) 20 kg, if all the smokeless powder is in containers that hold no more than 1 kg; or

(b) 5 kg, if any of the smokeless powder is in a container that holds more than 1 kg.

Marginal note:Other dwellings — black powder
(2) The maximum quantity of black powder that may be stored at any one time in a dwelling other than a detached dwelling, or in a storage unit attached to a dwelling other than a detached dwelling, is

(a) 1 kg, if the black powder is in containers; or

(b) 3 kg less any quantity that is in containers, if the black powder is in small arms cartridges or black powder cartouches.

Marginal note Detached storage unit
303. The maximum quantity of propellant powder that may be stored at any one time in Footnote *storage units that are not attached to a dwelling, whether in a single unit or in several, is 75 kg.

Return to footnote *Terms preceded by an asterisk are defined in section 6.

Marginal note:Storage requirements — dwelling
304. (1) When propellant powder, percussion caps or black power cartouches are stored in a dwelling, they must be stored away from flammable substances and sources of ignition. People not authorized by the user must not be given unlimited access to the propellant powder, percussion caps or black powder cartouches.

Marginal note:Storage requirements — storage unit
(2) When propellant powder, percussion caps or black powder cartouches are stored in a Footnote *storage unit,

(a) the storage unit must be located in a dry place, away from flammable substances and sources of ignition;

(b) the storage unit must be constructed and maintained to prevent unauthorized access and to protect the contents from weather;

(c) if the storage unit is a container, it must not impede exit in case of fire;

(d) if the storage unit is not a container, all exits must be kept unobstructed;

(e) any shelving in the storage unit must be made from a non-sparking material (for example, wood or painted metal);

(f) nothing other than small arms cartridges may be stored with the propellant powder, percussion caps or black powder cartouches;

(g) propellant powder, percussion caps, small arms cartridges and black powder cartouches must be stored separately from one another (for example, on different shelves or separated by a wooden barrier);

(h) the storage unit must be Footnote *attended when it is unlocked;

(i) the storage unit must be kept clean, dry, organized and free of grit;

(j) any spill, leakage or other contamination in the storage unit must be cleaned up immediately;

(k) precautions that minimize the likelihood of fire in or near the storage unit must be taken; and

(l) a sign that displays the words “Danger — Fire Hazard/Risque d’incendie” in letters at least 10 cm high and that prohibits smoking using letters, or a symbol, at least 10 cm high must be posted on the storage unit in a clearly visible location.

Return to footnote *Terms preceded by an asterisk are defined in section 6.
 
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Can you point out the part (quote section please) about 8 pound containers?

Pardon me. That's for non-detached dwellings. So, for anything except an entirely detached house.

Here is the relevant section, as quoted by you above:

(a) 20 kg, if all the smokeless powder is in containers that hold no more than 1 kg; or

(b) 5 kg, if any of the smokeless powder is in a container that holds more than 1 kg.

Since powder usually comes in 1 lb and 8 lb containers, if you have anything other than the 1 lb variety, your limit goes down to 5 Kg.

For fully detached dwellings, the limit is 25 Kg, regardless of the size of the container that it's packed it.

Also note that this limit includes any powder you currently have loaded in cartridges, but that's probably not much of a concern.
 
My last powder order was 33 pounds from Higginson's.
I split it with a couple buddies when it arrived. I've probably got around 30 pounds at home, usually 2 or 3 pounds of each type I use regularly plus a few random powders left over from cartridges I used to load for or a powder I want to try. I store it in two different boxes in the gun room plus any duplicates are stored in the garage in another cabinet.

With the shortages we've seen lately I just buy it whenever I find it in stock somewhere.
 
Do stores not get the amounts they order? If so I understand, otherwise, why don't they order and sell more??

Stores are getting a fraction of what they are ordering, due to massive hoarding right now. The plants that make the stuff are at full capacity and can't keep up. Until people stop hoarding and realistic purchasing levels return, this will continue. Last I heard talking to one of the buyers at Cabela's, Canada as a whole is getting about 20% of its powder orders filled at the moment. So stores can order all they want - they won't see most of it.
 
Stores are getting a fraction of what they are ordering, due to massive hoarding right now. The plants that make the stuff are at full capacity and can't keep up. Until people stop hoarding and realistic purchasing levels return, this will continue. Last I heard talking to one of the buyers at Cabela's, Canada as a whole is getting about 20% of its powder orders filled at the moment. So stores can order all they want - they won't see most of it.

It isn't hoarding if you are just buying enough to get you through to whenever the next time you might find a store with it in stock.
If you just buy one pound when you run out you're just asking to be buying factory loads for months while you wait to find more powder.
We get what's left over after the US fills it's orders so nothing will change until that Devil gun hater president is out of office and people down there settle down and quit prepping for the end of the world nothing here will change. The guys here buying powder aren't the problem.

I say get what you can when you can. Running out of supplies sucks.
 
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