Desert Tech/Desert Tactical SRS Covert

Ok now that I see the complete take down that the aluminum actually go the full length, which I didn't know, but that aluminum, the only part that are steel are the bolt and the barrel with the chamber, as for PGW is a completely steel receiver, barrel and bolt, not aluminum, as for price wise yes is bit more, barret is less, Ai is more but again not aluminum, it steel. as for the HTI I did handle it at the shooting edge, din't know it actually got the full length aluminum rail, again aluminum not steel.
barret is less, is there even a legal mag fed barret that is not prohib in canada?

you are talking thousands more with the PGW and AI, FYI there are other places to buy DTA that actually bring them in without stringing you on for years and at less cost.
 
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I'm no internet ninja, so I don't know for sure but in this pic you can clearly see the chassis extends to the butt of the rifle, holds the magazine and trigger assembly. You can also clearly see the SKINS are merely covers, I recall that the AI rifles are similar :rolleyes: so, I would say this is a proven design concept.

The DTA rifle is actually a pretty competitive design price wise.

On TSE's site an HS Precision 338 is $6k, TRG is about $4K before add on's
PGW Timberwolf is going to be around $6k
Wolverine has the AIAX MC for $7600

I recall CR5 was right in the $7k ballpark for his DTA SRS 338 with full deployment package and soft case. When you consider you only need ONE optic, regardless of how many conversions you buy it starts to make a lot of sense. You can't buy a rifle at this level with optic for the prices of a conversion. Even if you made a switch barrel custom, you still can't do it at the range or maybe in the hunting blind, in under a minute. If you can get over it being a goofy bullpup is makes sense.

Perhaps someone with multiple conversion kits can comment on how consistent the rifle is after a caliber change?
The HTI is a different animal, only the lower parts are polymer, it does not have covers like those pictured
 
You can get the legal in Canada(barret single shot), but not semi, HTI is different animal alright, aluminum action.
with nice deployment kit.
You going to spend more than 7k to 8k already, what another k or 2 and get steel action.

barret is less, is there even a legal mag fed barret that is not prohib in canada?

you are talking thousands more with the PGW and AI, FYI there are other places to buy DTA that actually bring them in without stringing you on for years and at less cost.
 
Ok now that I see the complete take down that the aluminum actually go the full length, which I didn't know, but that aluminum, the only part that are steel are the bolt and the barrel with the chamber, as for PGW is a completely steel receiver, barrel and bolt, not aluminum, as for price wise yes is bit more, barret is less, Ai is more but again not aluminum, it steel. as for the HTI I did handle it at the shooting edge, din't know it actually got the full length aluminum rail, again aluminum not steel.

Regardless of material, it is accurate because the action, receiver and stock are essentially one piece, the exact same design concept as the AI rifles. The parts that need to be steel, the bolt, lugs and barrel, are. Its no different than the PGW in concept, the action just has to be larger and stiffer on a traditional bolt action to allow it to be attached to the chassis securely. This is why you bed actions to stocks and why stocks incorporate pillars and bedding blocks, because the action and chassis are separate components.
 
Regarding which rifle will do the Jobs, I am sure they all good, and only time will tell if the aluminum will stand up to that of the steel counterpart, but as to spending that much money, there is other manufacture, and I am still convince that either the Sako or other manufacture just as good or better, To pay that much for a rifle, I would still favour toward Steel action then aluminum.
 
You can get the legal in Canada(barret single shot), but not semi, HTI is different animal alright, aluminum action.
with nice deployment kit.
You going to spend more than 7k to 8k already, what another k or 2 and get steel action.
steel action sure, but the rifle weight is 50% plus more and is how much longer? (PGW/AI) Is any of them more accurate? I have yet to see any gains with the ammunition we have available to us and I have friends with all rifles you have mentioned to compare. Maybe you have a different experience with the 50?
 
I absolutely love my srs in 338 and 308. Once I zeroed my scope and set the zero stop I was banging the gong at 900 yards.
 
Ok now that I see the complete take down that the aluminum actually go the full length, which I didn't know, but that aluminum, the only part that are steel are the bolt and the barrel with the chamber, as for PGW is a completely steel receiver, barrel and bolt, not aluminum, as for price wise yes is bit more, barret is less, Ai is more but again not aluminum, it steel. as for the HTI I did handle it at the shooting edge, din't know it actually got the full length aluminum rail, again aluminum not steel.

So now you admit you actually know nothing about it yet you were arguing how it's an inferior rifle because it is "plastic". Now that you see it's actually aluminum and not plastic all of a sudden aluminum isn't good enough for you either. Maybe you should just stop posting and go troll some other thread.

The aluminum takes no load at all so what difference does it make? The bolt has huge dual locking lugs which is what takes the load during firing, the rest is just structure to support the action.
Unless you are using your rifles as pry bars or ramps to load your quad onto the trailer I really don't see why you are so against having anything other than Stainless. How much do you want it to weigh?
I've taken my DTA out hunting and had it slung across my back all day riding around on the quad and it's short enough not to get snagged on tree branches, light enough to be comfortable to carry and also shoot standing offhand, and heavy enough to absorb the recoil of the 338 cartridge. I've even shot it without the muzzle brake and it's still comfortable to shoot.
 
So now you admit you actually know nothing about it yet you were arguing how it's an inferior rifle because it is "plastic". Now that you see it's actually aluminum and not plastic all of a sudden aluminum isn't good enough for you either. Maybe you should just stop posting and go troll some other thread.

The aluminum takes no load at all so what difference does it make? The bolt has huge dual locking lugs which is what takes the load during firing, the rest is just structure to support the action.
Unless you are using your rifles as pry bars or ramps to load your quad onto the trailer I really don't see why you are so against having anything other than Stainless. How much do you want it to weigh?
I've taken my DTA out hunting and had it slung across my back all day riding around on the quad and it's short enough not to get snagged on tree branches, light enough to be comfortable to carry and also shoot standing offhand, and heavy enough to absorb the recoil of the 338 cartridge. I've even shot it without the muzzle brake and it's still comfortable to shoot.
I was surprised how light the SRS was when I handled one a few months ago, I am still holding on to the hope that someone brings in the Alexander Arms Ulfberht
 
from what I have see and experience, steel will tent to be more tougher, stronger to handle repeat explosive shock, and this will allow shooter to thousand of round even when barrel worn out, another barrel can be chamber in change, while the action is what will last over the lifetime of the shooter, it your money, you can get what ever one desire, but for me I will get rifle with steel action, because I know it will last. get aluminum action and you only know maybe it will last.

Regardless of material, it is accurate because the action, receiver and stock are essentially one piece, the exact same design concept as the AI rifles. The parts that need to be steel, the bolt, lugs and barrel, are. Its no different than the PGW in concept, the action just has to be larger and stiffer on a traditional bolt action to allow it to be attached to the chassis securely. This is why you bed actions to stocks and why stocks incorporate pillars and bedding blocks, because the action and chassis are separate components.
 
I was surprised how light the SRS was when I handled one a few months ago, I am still holding on to the hope that someone brings in the Alexander Arms Ulfberht

I want one of those as well, I'm not sure my powder supply can keep up to a semi auto 338L.

If it makes it here as non restricted I may be selling some more toys to pay for one.
 
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from what I have see and experience, steel will tent to be more tougher, stronger to handle repeat explosive shock, and this will allow shooter to thousand of round even when barrel worn out, another barrel can be chamber in change, while the action is what will last over the lifetime of the shooter, it your money, you can get what ever one desire, but for me I will get rifle with steel action, because I know it will last. get aluminum action and you only know maybe it will last.

How is it going to wear out or break if it doesn't carry any of the forces generated while firing?
All the aluminum does is support the steel receiver and guide the bolt back and forth, no load, no heat.

I hope this thread gets closed soon, or that you see something shiny and get distracted and quit posting.
 
from what I have see and experience, steel will tent to be more tougher, stronger to handle repeat explosive shock, and this will allow shooter to thousand of round even when barrel worn out, another barrel can be chamber in change, while the action is what will last over the lifetime of the shooter, it your money, you can get what ever one desire, but for me I will get rifle with steel action, because I know it will last. get aluminum action and you only know maybe it will last.

The action doesn't see any of the big forces involved in the shot. It is just there to hold the barrel in place. With the extra surface area in the DTA SRS or HTI chassis, the recoil forces would be spread out much more so it doesn't need to be a big heavy hunk of steel. The same as snow mobiles, street bikes, dirt bikes, ATV's, unibody cars, and aircraft with perimeter aluminum frames.
 
My RFB was a pretty steady 1.5 moa with handloads. Problem with their 24 inch barrel model is that it is the exact same barrel just cut longer. I contacted KelTec directly and was told there is no difference in barrel quality only that the blank is cut longer than the 18.5 inch model. So other than a little more velocity I wouldn't expect any more accuracy. There are too many contact points messing with barrel harmonics to get much better accuracy from the design, the barrel is the spine of the rifle and everything attaches to it. A SS barrel might help a little but probably not enough to justify the cost.
That's why I didn't say 24" barrel, I don't really see the point of that model for the reason you state plus you loose the compactness of the package. Also I wouldn't venture in a match barrel project since I am perfectly happy with my 27" rfb douing 1.5-2" group with .50$ norinco ammo. But it would nevertheless be interesting to see someone push the accuracy of this rifle to the maximum.
 
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