LordEvilPepper
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Under a rusty barge in BC
I don't know man I use redding imperial sizing wax...once I switched to good dies and a better press my run out issues went away. I see the difference between redding dies and RCBS/lyman/Lee, clear as day, the concintricity gauge doesn't lie. Re-sizing military brass fired from a M305s with that 6-10 thou over field gauge chamber requires a lot of force, sometimes 2 passes through the press to get it to stay were its superpossed to for measurements on the shoulder, Ive had he cases "bounce" the ram back on the first pass. re sizing brass for one of my buddies was a workout and a half with a high casualty rate on the brass, you could see with a naked eye how ballooned the shoulder were after firing. On the RCBS you have a lot more force on the down stroke, makes it a hell of a lot easier.
Those lee scales do not hold zero, that stupid set spring on the zero weight allows the weight to move around, so even dumping a load of powder in the pan to fast ruins the zero. if you taped the base of mine with a finger lightly (not even hard enough to make the base move) the weight would spin up or down a quarter turn or so.. Replacing it with a 30 cheap hornady pocket scale improved my grouping results massively.
when i moved up into a higher end Lyman scale I checked the Lee one, even zeroing for each throw wasn't good enough it was still all over the place.... so I took it to the range and was done with it.
the RCBS press has way better accessories as well, from the better priming system, to the "piggy back" progressive add on.
that lee kit was the biggest waste of my cash that could have been put towards a real setup. I used to think they were a good beginner set; but as everything broke, wore out quickly or just never worked right to start with I've since changed my mind. by buying good equipment ive cut down my time spent on mucking about with faulty/finicky equipment, correcting BS out of tolerance sizing and seating issues and not having to pull bullets because my powder thrower/scale keeps jumping about.
learning on ####ty "starter" gear doesn't make you a better re loader, it just complicates and frustrates you as a beginner. You either A get mad and buy the quility stuff, or B get mad and give up
Ive been reloading for a few years now and my bench is almost all redding, with the exception of my press which is RCBS (but my new redding one is replacing it, its waiting at the post office for when i get back from fort mac), my auto dispenser which is lyman as redding doesn't make one (I have redding scale and powder trickler though), and my bullet puller. Redding stuff works that much better that it justifies the cost. And as I spend a lot of hours at my reloading bench, not getting pissed off at my tools matters to me.
Those lee scales do not hold zero, that stupid set spring on the zero weight allows the weight to move around, so even dumping a load of powder in the pan to fast ruins the zero. if you taped the base of mine with a finger lightly (not even hard enough to make the base move) the weight would spin up or down a quarter turn or so.. Replacing it with a 30 cheap hornady pocket scale improved my grouping results massively.
when i moved up into a higher end Lyman scale I checked the Lee one, even zeroing for each throw wasn't good enough it was still all over the place.... so I took it to the range and was done with it.
the RCBS press has way better accessories as well, from the better priming system, to the "piggy back" progressive add on.
that lee kit was the biggest waste of my cash that could have been put towards a real setup. I used to think they were a good beginner set; but as everything broke, wore out quickly or just never worked right to start with I've since changed my mind. by buying good equipment ive cut down my time spent on mucking about with faulty/finicky equipment, correcting BS out of tolerance sizing and seating issues and not having to pull bullets because my powder thrower/scale keeps jumping about.
learning on ####ty "starter" gear doesn't make you a better re loader, it just complicates and frustrates you as a beginner. You either A get mad and buy the quility stuff, or B get mad and give up
Ive been reloading for a few years now and my bench is almost all redding, with the exception of my press which is RCBS (but my new redding one is replacing it, its waiting at the post office for when i get back from fort mac), my auto dispenser which is lyman as redding doesn't make one (I have redding scale and powder trickler though), and my bullet puller. Redding stuff works that much better that it justifies the cost. And as I spend a lot of hours at my reloading bench, not getting pissed off at my tools matters to me.
