Ruger BX25 magazines and RCMP policy

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OK I get that way back there was an issue with the labels on the package saying they were also for the charger pistol.The label has been changed and know where does it say anything other than for a 10-22.Why have the archaic RCMP not changed this stupid ruling on prohibition and allowed these in Canada. Today I had 2 seized at the border and not trying to hide anything I declared them.Yes I am too blame for a little honesty and stupidity. Real crock is I could have brought the butler crk mags back.Just very frustrated thinking I had a solution too miss feeds from crappy mags,and being out $60 USD.RCMP get with the times they changed the package.
 
I know the RCMP ruled them prohibited unless it is pinned to 10 rounds, but there are some Canadian retailers that still sell ruger bx25 magazines. Not pinned.
 
Just completely absurd. Butler creek mag = OK. RUGER mag = not ok. They're the same damn thing. Gun laws in this country make my brain hurt. Amazing that the conservatives are too blind or scared to do something about it.
 
Yeah, the ruling doesn't makes sense... but we have been going over this for years... why are guys still trying to get them across the border and then b!tch!ng when the get confiscated... you don't have to like the law, but you do have to follow it...

And a court case in August... for what???

P.S - we have a couple dozen BC Steel Lips mags that work flawlessly... sprayed with Krylon flat black they look good too.
 
International trades tribunal for the release of my property. Yes the BX25 mag is prohibited however the bx25x2 is a different product. Designed for the 10/22 rifle family.
I thought youd know that.
Hey you know your stuff. I've even asked your advise on stuff. Funny thing is, your good at giving it out, just not so good when someones opinion is different than yours.
The only bad thing Ive had to say about dlask barrels is there heavy. When people ask for opinions on them. I give it to them. They dont have to listen to me. However going on a rant about it isnt helping anyone.
Atleast I give all sides of the coin, not just one.
 
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Some ports are savvy on the BX-25's status, some aren't. If you run into the former, ask them if you can re-export, at least that way you might be able to return them to the store and get your money back. Without their status being changed by the RCMP, you likely won't get them back after they've been seized. I agree it's stupid, but them's the rules.
 
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I just forfeited them,not a law breaker and not worth the hassle or time too return them.Yes I went on advice from another at the range who told me he declared them at the same border and let him have them.Yes my border agent was a gun guy and is a member of this site.He sympathize d with me but he is stuck with an archaic RCMP ruling. Like I said before Ruger has complied and changed the package, why can't the RCMP get with the times and change the prohibition. I just want a reliable mag.Just pisses me off I'm too honest.I said too CBS agent if I was trying to hide them I would have thrown away receipt and put them in my pocket. He agreed I wasn't trying to hide just a little ignorant of a stupid prohibition. CBS agent said he would feel bad as well when he smashed them with a hammer.
 
Andrew who are these bx25 mags retailers? Lol yes until sept of last year they were on the shelves. However since the new crim code update. Its illegal to sell the bx25s unless pinned. Heck Id like to buy some. They work so much better than aftermarket mags.
 
I completely agree the law is stupid but it the law, plain and simple. Would you be surprised if it was any other item off the prohibited list they confiscated from you.

If you knew the were prohibited unless pinned why even risk it, the steel lipped butler creek mags work almost flawlessly.
 
International trades tribunal for the release of my property. Yes the BX25 mag is prohibited however the bx25x2 is a different product. Designed for the 10/22 rifle family.
I thought youd know that.
Hey you know your stuff. I've even asked your advise on stuff. Funny thing is, your good at giving it out, just not so good when someones opinion is different than yours.
The only bad thing Ive had to say about dlask barrels is there heavy. When people ask for opinions on them. I give it to them. They dont have to listen to me. However going on a rant about it isnt helping anyone.
Atleast I give all sides of the coin, not just one.

What the heck are you talking about... what do "Dlask Barrels" have to do with this discussion???

If you want to use the "coin analogy" then my issue would be this; people want to know if a certain coin is a nickel or a quarter and its year of manufacture and you want to tell everyone how many lines are on the edge...
 
I just forfeited them,not a law breaker and not worth the hassle or time too return them.Yes I went on advice from another at the range who told me he declared them at the same border and let him have them.Yes my border agent was a gun guy and is a member of this site.He sympathize d with me but he is stuck with an archaic RCMP ruling. Like I said before Ruger has complied and changed the package, why can't the RCMP get with the times and change the prohibition. I just want a reliable mag.Just pisses me off I'm too honest.I said too CBS agent if I was trying to hide them I would have thrown away receipt and put them in my pocket. He agreed I wasn't trying to hide just a little ignorant of a stupid prohibition. CBS agent said he would feel bad as well when he smashed them with a hammer.


It sucks to have property confiscated... I had a shipment of LEGAL knives confiscated because one agent felt that they opened too easily... the bolsters were a little loose... the total value was $250... if I wanted to return them to the originator for a refund I would have to hire a third party broker to pick them up, do the paperwork and reship them back where they came from... the catch was, the cheapest broker was going to cost $350... so I did the same as you... forfeited property valued at $250 and was a legal product that could be purchased in Canada... sucks...
 
What makes a BX-25, a BX-25?

Is it simply the embossed lettering on the side of the mag? We've all established that is fundamentally no different than the BC-25 et al.

If a manufacturer were to re-tool so the lettering on the side said nothing, or called it BX-24, then is it no longer a BX-25?
 
Correct.
The criminal code says that a magazine that is designed and manufactured for a pistol must be pinned to ten rounds. If the mag works for both a rifle and pistol. The mag still must be pinned. Thus the LAR mags are 10 rounds and are legal for a centerfire rifle even though the same man mag for the rifle must be 5 rounds. However rimfire rifles have no limit. Unless the mag is swappable from pistol to rifle.
M&P 15-22, BX-25 and when the pistol version of the 715t makes it into Canada, the 25 rounds mags also will have to be pinned.
The BX25x2 is a different product. Different design and on both the website and packaging, they clearly state that the mag is for the 10/22 rifle family.
Thus why Ive filled an appeal. I have also listed all the current 10/22 aftermarket mags and the ITT will have to decide if all aftermarket mags will need to be pinned of they classify the bx25x2 mags as prohibited unless pinned. This is because all 10/22 aftermarket mags work with the Ruger Charger. If they do it for one, they must do it for all.
 
Correct.
The criminal code says that a magazine that is designed and manufactured for a pistol must be pinned to ten rounds. If the mag works for both a rifle and pistol. The mag still must be pinned. Thus the LAR mags are 10 rounds and are legal for a centerfire rifle even though the same man mag for the rifle must be 5 rounds. However rimfire rifles have no limit. Unless the mag is swappable from pistol to rifle.
M&P 15-22, BX-25 and when the pistol version of the 715t makes it into Canada, the 25 rounds mags also will have to be pinned.
The BX25x2 is a different product. Different design and on both the website and packaging, they clearly state that the mag is for the 10/22 rifle family.
Thus why Ive filled an appeal. I have also listed all the current 10/22 aftermarket mags and the ITT will have to decide if all aftermarket mags will need to be pinned of they classify the bx25x2 mags as prohibited unless pinned. This is because all 10/22 aftermarket mags work with the Ruger Charger. If they do it for one, they must do it for all.

^^ so if all aftermarket mags get listed as prohibited unless pinned we know who to blame. Is it really worth possibly getting all 10/22 mags reclassified so you can prove a point? So you can get your $100 worth of mags back? Cut your losses and run butler creeks or whatever like the rest of the law abiding firearm community.
 
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^^ so if all aftermarket mags get listed as prohibited unless pinned we know who to blame. Is it really worth possibly getting all 10/22 mags reclassified so you can prove a point? So you can get your $100 worth of mags back? Cut your losses and run butler creeks or whatever like the rest of the law abiding firearm community.

Don't waste your breath... we have all been through this before with this CLOWN.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you could not bring any magazines( even butler creek ) through the border?
 
. I have also listed all the current 10/22 aftermarket mags and the ITT will have to decide if all aftermarket mags will need to be pinned of they classify the bx25x2 mags as prohibited unless pinned. This is because all 10/22 aftermarket mags work with the Ruger Charger. If they do it for one, they must do it for all.

Owgh. Well, if I had to bet on how they will rule, it won't be the way we want. I think this was a bad decision by listing all 10/22 mags.
 
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