mossberg 590a1 vs 590 mariner

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A lot of things on my mind that I want to discuss about these two shotguns, of which I would like to select one.

So I want a shotgun that is ultra durable.

1. From what I understand, the 590a1 is the military standard, and has gone through all the tests, blah blah blah.

I'm intrigued and curious about the marinecoat finish on the mariner however.

Which gun is the more durable/reliable one? Does the 590 mariner contain the strengthened extractor, double walled barrel or whatever its called and all the other crap that the 590a1 does? Would the 590a1 be just as fine in a humid/marine environment since its built for military use?

2. Also, on another forum I noticed people arguing about plastic triggerguard (on the mariner) vs. the metal triggerguard on the 590a1.

A point that was brought up in favour of the plastic, was that if the metal one gets dinged or bent, it needs to be replaced. Whereas the plastic triggerguard will return to its proper shape when bent. Also something about possibly breaking your fingers with a metal triggerguard because it can't bend as easily.

3. I'm intrigued by the raptor grip. However I was wondering would it be as easy to handle the recoil with a raptor grip aiming down the sights, as it when looking down the sights with a stock resting on my shoulder?

4. The stock that holds 4 shells. Good or bad? What do you prefer in terms of stocks and why?

5. The shell holder thingamajig on the side of the receiver. What's that called lol.

6. What's a good type of ammo for self defense purposes? I don't intend to use either of these guns for hunting, strictly to shoot at targets or self defense. However my priority is self defense, so I don't want a 2 in one type which is average in both roles and excels at neither.

Concerns of mine in regards to ammo: something that will not go through a person, and something that will not go through a wall. I don't feel comfortable with the idea of buckshot because I am paranoid about a stray pellet hitting something.

I'm thinking of going with the 590a1 as of now, but was just wondering if anyone wanted to put in their 2 cents on the above.
 
I don't have a marinecoat mariner 590. I have seen one on the EE where the finish was scraped off - it looked horrible. Unsure what the guy did to it, but it was scraped off pretty good at the end of the barrel. I find the blued finish on the 500 to be more durable than the parkerized 590A1.

I have a 590A1 shotgun and it's excellent. I also really like my 500's as they are quite a bit lighter. As for the metal safety, it doesn't make much of a difference to me, more durable but also harder on your thumb when you actuate it. Metal trigger guard is much better than the plastic.

If you don't want all the 590A1 extras, just get the Moss 500 Mariner. I am unsure of the differences between the 500 and the base 590 shotgun, but I love the base 500's light weight.

Not sure I'm able to answer all your questions - there is a Mossberg 500/590 sticky up there ^, start reading. Lots of good info for you to learn.

This I know, all 500's and 590A1's I've had - never fail. They always feed, cycle and go bang.

Here's some of my Mossberg's and a few other woodies': (Top to bottom)- FSN-01 VZ58 w/surplus wood, 51' Tula SKS, Moss 500 Persuader 20", 18.5" 500 J.I.C, and 18.5" 590A1 (all mossy's have refinished vintage wood installed). That pistol grip bottom left is attached to my 500 Road Blocker.

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Thanks a lot for your feedback! Yeah I read the 590a1 is heavy compared to the 500, and even the other 590's. I think I'm going to end up going with the 590a1.
 
590A1 is heavy, but that assists in lessening felt recoil.

The 590 is a real bang around, throw down, get dirty gun. It'll take rigorous abuse and keep functioning.
The parkerized barrel is very susceptible to scratches, but they aren't supposed to be a pretty gun. That more of the Mariners thing.

You can also get a 590 Special Purpose witch has a blued barrel, and standard barrel thickness to eleviate weight issues and scratching the park'd barrel finish.

http://frontierfirearms.ca/mossberg-590-special-purpose.html
 
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590A1 is heavy, but that assists in lessening felt recoil.

The 590 is a real bang around, throw down, get dirty gun. It'll take rigorous abuse and keep functioning.
The parkerized barrel is very susceptible to scratches, but they aren't supposed to be a pretty gun. That more of the Mariners thing.

You can also get a 590 Special Purpose witch has a blued barrel, and standard barrel thickness to eleviate weight issues and scratching the park'd barrel finish.

http://frontierfirearms.ca/mossberg-590-special-purpose.html

Parkerising is only ideal if you keep it oiled, most people don't really understand how parkarizing works
If its well oiled you will not have any scrach type issues
 
OP- I can't figure out if you really want a Mossberg or not as you say all "military blah blah blah" as though that, to you, means nothing and then you say and "all the other crap" as though that also is an irrelevancy to you.



Anyway, if you are serious and simply don't know how to write properly, a good answer for you might well be as follows: for the majority of climates the 590A1 will likely provide you with years of dependable service. If you are in an espacially salt-laded (marine) environment then your needs may be better served by the Marine version.



 
Maybe the 'well oiled' thing is also for the marinecoat... as that finish will scratch off as well.

parkerising is a metal treatment, the "marine" finish is a plate, it is electroless nickel plated

we just did a small run of Mossberg 590 and Remington 870 single point sling plates in Electroless nickel, we are just working out if we should do a run of +2 mag tubes for the 590a1 in electroless nickel.
we use the same company that does all the work for Savage, it is a good quality finish, but there lead times are a little long.
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parkerising is a metal treatment, the "marine" finish is a plate, it is electroless nickel plated

It does scratch as well, just like any treatment or plating. I saw the one on the EE and it was quite the scrape, whatever was plated - was scraped off. Bluing, parkerising and plating can be scratched off.
 
It does scratch as well, just like any treatment or plating. I saw the one on the EE and it was quite the scrape, whatever was plated - was scraped off. Bluing, parkerising and plating can be scratched off.

if the marine finish came of like that that the finish is defective, I have a marine magnum that has seen well over 80,000 round In the last 20yrs and has been everywhere with me, so areas have word smooth, but never seen any flaking.
you can scratch blueing or parkerising but you can not scratch it off, it is a metal treatment and is in the surface of the metal, on the surface.
As I said Parkerizing is a metal treatment.
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