Black rifle dish soap bath.

copeland

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So I have my DDMV5 and a Tavor that I want to clean and frog lube.

I did some looking for the best way to strip all the oil and grease to apply frog lube properly. Through all my research the soap and hot water method sounds the best for price, thoroughness and lack of harm to rifles.

I'm just boiling the water, I'll update this once I'm finished.

This might make for an interesting Thursday evening on CGN.
 
in the military ,we would coat the rifles in and out ,with the green or white hand cleaner .the type the mechanics use . then run boiling water through them .
they would be spotless every time . the senior ncos would be pissed that they could not pick you up for a dirty rifle.
 
Ok. That took longer then expected. But the lesson is:

1.) hot soapy water is time consuming but fantastic.

2.) Frog lube is a great product. I used the spray on springs and brushed on the paste everywhere else.

What I did was take a plastic kitchen garbage can and fill it with 6 inches of hot water. I then used the electric kettle to keep adding hot water. I field stripped the AR down to the bolt. Then did the lower and little bits. Scrubbing a bit but mostly soaking.

Everything was pretty damn clean. Next I used a blow dryer to dry and heat the parts. Applied frog lube liberally and moved onto upper. Same deal, I had a small plastic container to scoop water and pour over the entire rifle. Dried again, lubed up and reassembled. There is a bit of excess, but I want to see what happens on the range.

I figure the following cleaning will be much easier.

I would have taken pictures but the reassembly of the bolt on the Tavor slowed me right down.
 
You could have thrown it in the dishwasher. Wife might not like it though. But on the serious side, Simple Green and hot water is an excellent degreaser.
 
in the military ,we would coat the rifles in and out ,with the green or white hand cleaner .the type the mechanics use . then run boiling water through them .
they would be spotless every time . the senior ncos would be pissed that they could not pick you up for a dirty rifle.

I've never done that before....granted, I haven't been in that long, but I've never heard anyone else doing that either. Was this for inspection during your basic? I can't seen anyone bother to get their rifles that clean once they were done their BMQ/BMQ-L.

I can't imagine the #### we would have gotten if we were ever caught washing them with soap and water.........plus there'd be no way to get boiling water on a BMQ or BMQ-L/SQ course.
 
Best way to clean a C9 is WD40,a bucket of hot water (not boiling you need to put your hands in it), dish soap and a bottle brush.

As soon as you are done on the range and while it is still warm soak it in WD and let it soften the filth over the next few hours. Then tear it down and throw it into the bucket of hot soapy water, scrub it clean, rinse, dry with compressed air, oil it up and turn it in. The WD pre soak is the key to getting the filth and carbon to fall right off.
 
I've never done that before....granted, I haven't been in that long, but I've never heard anyone else doing that either. Was this for inspection during your basic? I can't seen anyone bother to get their rifles that clean once they were done their BMQ/BMQ-L.

I can't imagine the #### we would have gotten if we were ever caught washing them with soap and water.........plus there'd be no way to get boiling water on a BMQ or BMQ-L/SQ course.

yeah non of my early courses had any of that degreaser either. didnt see a bottle of orange cleaner till i got to my DP1. Although i doubt you'd get in trouble for washing with soap and water, i guess it would depend on your instructors though. It seems a lot of people even civi side here that think water + rifle = balls falling off. At the end of my SQ the instructors taught us to run hot water through the receivers and chambers
 
I'm guessing you didn't see the thread. Instead of just putting the stock in buddy put the whole rifle in and it came out completely rusted. I'm guessing an AR might fare a bit better but I don't think I'd want to risk it.:)

Hilarious how a train of thought works. I tried to google the guy with the M14 and the dishwasher but couldn't find the link to the archived thread. Then I remembered someone doing it with an AR so I searched that, found ####. But I found this gem of a thread, haha!

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1270370

"Am I going to die"....epic thread.
 
The CF is funny that way.
If anyone ever takes the time to learn about the issue CLP, it says that for it to work, it is supposed to be put on and left to soak for about two hours.
I have yet to meet anyone who has done this. It is always the same, spray on and immediately wipe off without any benefit that CLP was designed to give the metal by sitting and soaking for two hours.

Nothing wrong with hot water.
It is particularly good for cleaning out and flushing all the grit out of the lower around the triggers assembly.
The benefit of being hot is that it dries off pretty fast from its' own heat.
Oil when dry and turn in. (notice I didn't say clp,,,)

I wonder if anyone else remembers the issued rifle soap that came in those reddish-pink bars and kegs?
The kind the SQ would lather up and serve to junior officers as strawberry ice cream, when they did something exceptionally Rupert-like.
Time to wonder over to milsurp and ask Purple.
 
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