Are these 2 Mosins somewhat rare or common ? Value?

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Never seen the blade style front sight on any other mosin i owned ? held on to these cause i like the front sights kinda unique and both are great shooters.. Both are Izzy i think ,one is a 1931 the other is a 1933 .


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Not sure why they removed the front site hoods? but the blade looks like an improvement to the too short post it was issued as.

Nice rifles, but you're missing the bayos and one cleaning rod.
 
- Bottom one is definitely the early type Russian sight used before the globe sight, it uses the early Panshin type bayonet (rare and expensive bayonet).

- Top one might be a Finnish issue rifle, they used this type of sight. Does it have an SA mark on the the barrel shank ? If no SA mark, it is also a Panshin type.
 
These rifles have the original blade front sight on them, dates from 1930 to 1933/34 approx. Most were replaced during a refurb. So good find, stamps on the stocks look original too.
 
JP said:
- Bottom one is definitely the early type Russian sight used before the globe sight, it uses the early Panshin type bayonet (rare and expensive bayonet).

- Top one might be a Finnish issue rifle, they used this type of sight. Does it have an SA mark on the the barrel shank ? If no SA mark, it is also a Panshin type.
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Yep a normal 91/30 bayo wont work on these rifles , and there is no Fin SA markings on them so i guess they are Panshin rifles made from 1930 to 1933 , I read the bayos for these rifles are very rare ? how much do they cost and how hard to find ?
 
fiddler said:
Not sure why they removed the front site hoods? but the blade looks like an improvement to the too short post it was issued as.

Nice rifles, but you're missing the bayos and one cleaning rod.
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From mosin-nagant.net these are Panshin rifles , guess they are worth more than a average Mosin ..what a helpful website http://www.mosinnagant.net/ussr/soviet-m9130.asp

''There are three versions of the M91/30 frontsight: First, Tula and Izhevsk used the sight blade of the old dragoon rifle up to the1932-1931 period. Secondly, with the new backsight came a new frontsight too; a higher bladed one, which was in use up to 1933. These M91/30 rifles with the bladed frontsights used a special new (rather rare) bayonet. This bayonet had an integrated sight hood, and was developed by Panshin. The widely known bayonet M1891/30 (developed by Panshin too) was introduced in 1933 along with the final version of the frontsight; the hooded post. It was very easy to change this sight, even in the frontline. Most of the older M1891/30 got this new frontsight later. If you find a real Russian M91/30 with the first types of sights, don´t ask about the price. Buy it! ''
 
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They re hard to find but you have to find somebody who cares enough to pay extra. A cgn'er has been trying to sell one on the ee with a bayo for $500 shipped for over a month and its still there.
 
Nice stock cartouches. Most of the refurb'd 91/30's in Canada don't seem to have these cartouches - just too sanded, which is interesting as cartouches are fairly common on SVT's? I''ve only seen two refurb'd 91/30's with strong stock cartouches and I didn't even pick them up as I already had examples for that maker/year.

As other members have mentioned, their are a few other neat things about these rifles as well.
 
The earlier tradex import from the Ukraine had stocks that only made a brief acquaintance with the belt sander if any. A few of the blade sights made it through too.
 
cainesy said:
Nice rifles you have there. How is the bore on the top one in the first pic,the shorter one, is she accurate?
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They are both the same size, they both have really good bores smooth and shiny , other than my sniper these are my best shooting mosins , i can shoot a 5 shot groups with surplus ammo about the size of hockey puck.
 
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