Real original M14s had forged receivers..............just sayin........
I FAIL. I meant it the other way around, but it came out that. LOL
Springfield M1a stnd vs loaded vs norc rcvr build
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I FAIL. I meant it the other way around, but it came out that. LOL
you mean like, armourers like tim at warbird or gus fischer right? I don't believe ted brown was ever an armourer ....
and it's true, Canada seriously lacks experience like those guys in this platform. glad I have at least one of em on speed dial and they actually take my calls
mind you I'm not building professionally anymore. still seem to always have an m14 on my bench though LOLthis week it's an LRB m25 build and a usgi parts swap with an early polytech. couple weeks ago was another m25 build with way out of spec bolt helix ..... my god who in Canada would even know to catch that........ I know of only one guy
you mean like, armourers like tim at warbird or gus fischer right? I don't believe ted brown was ever an armourer ....
and it's true, Canada seriously lacks experience like those guys in this platform. glad I have at least one of em on speed dial and they actually take my calls
this week it's an LRB m25 build and a usgi parts swap with an early polytech. couple weeks ago was another m25 build with way out of spec bolt helix ..... my god who in Canada would even know to catch that........ I know of only one guy
That's why I said armorers/gunsmiths. I assume you are not seriously doubting Ted Brown's ability to put together a M14 are you?
Ya..... No offense my friend but I'd have to disagree with your entire post.
Hey If I'm wrong, please correct me. I'm all ears.
These guys are damn good at their craft, especially if you want old school, glass bedding, unitized gas systems etc...
IMO, they really haven't embraced the benefits & techniques utilized to make the modernized M14/EBR run.
That's not a knock against them, they are old school guys that have perfected the old school ways.
Nope, from what I've read on internet forums, the man has earned his reputation for sure.
I was just saying I don't think he was ever an armourer... I could be wrong but I've been around awhile.
I'll add that it would be my dream come true to have a rifle built by warbird and one built by Ron smith. Sadly I'd have to move to the US to make that a reality
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I was just watching this thread, and looks like H20 MAN is also in there, but is this possible? 1MOA Norc M14 for under $1,000 including glass. If that's the case, I'm going to try and feed her nice ammo and hope she cooperates because near as I can tell, the copper-washed Norc 7.62 is only good for plinking at large size gong not more than 200m away.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...chinese-M-14-the-closest-to-MOA-under-1000-00
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...chinese-M-14-the-closest-to-MOA-under-1000-00
It doesn't always cost a lot of money to build a good shooter.
And the comparison of an M1A cast receiver to usgi... But I think you corrected that in another post.
No big deal, disagreeing isn't pickin on you hehehe
It's no secret that I have no love for springfield armoury
I say go Norinco, here is a target I shot with my 2013 socom 18. Only mods are black arrow spring guide and the blackfeather stock (op rod guide, so just pinteling or appoxying the norc op rod guide does the job)
And it was shooting cheap 0.45$ norc ammo.
And it was shooting cheap 0.45$ norc ammo.
Glass, rings and a mount are items one adds to a rifle that's proven itself very accurate with iron sights... that's my opinion.
In this case, I would have spent my money on USGI front & rear sights, the best NM trigger job I could get, shimming the gas system,
stiffening the fore end of the synthetic stock if need be, and buying some quality ammo to see what works best in the factory barrel.
The only thing that matters is your budget in time and money. Building a rifle will cost you more than buying one, but it'll be your rifle. Then you'll need to try a box of as many brands of ammo as you can to find the ammo your rifle will shoot into 2 MOA. Or reload. Reloading for an M1A instantly voids the warrantee.
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Although I'm a fan of unitizing, especially chinese cylinders where I have noticed generous band clearance around barrel and cylinder.
I'm about 1/3 of the way thru fabricating a rifle testing vice based off the one used by armourers testing NM builds.
Take the shooter out of the equation altogether.
It doesn't always cost a lot of money to build a good shooter.
And the comparison of an M1A cast receiver to usgi... But I think you corrected that in another post.
No big deal, disagreeing isn't pickin on you hehehe
It's no secret that I have no love for springfield armoury
I guess it depends on how you define good shooter. If you want sub moa, your going to have to put on a match quality barrel. If 1-2 moa is what your after, then the standard barrel along with unitizing, shimming and bedding, will probably get you there.
Chinese M14s that where imported into the USA had chrome lined barrels known to be as good as rack grade USGI chrome lined barrels.
The vast majority of rack grade M14s that TACOM Rock Island installed in SAGE EBR chassis system shot sub MOA groups with LC M118-LR.
If the factory barrels on your Norcs are equal to the ones found on our old Norinco & Poly Tech rifles, they should be good to go.
I've been curious about the chinese barrels and wonder if anyone out there has info on manufacture years of chinese m14 barrels.
I am assuming that the rifles we used to get, like the century arms and CJA stamped models were the same barrels that guys like ron smith have had analyzed.
Then came the black parkerized 2009 imports with 22 and the new 18.5" barrels. And now the socom 18.5 barrels.
So my question to the internet is... Did china start making new barrels? And has anyone tested/analyzed one of them?
