Cutting SXS barrels

[Brutus]

Chances are a 1900 vintage shotgun has damascus barrels. Not considered safe to shoot and won't cut like a solid barrel.

Sunray. Did you notice your track record of half truths has fallen down just like a house of cards once again?
You are again in a distinct minority here. Birmingham Proof House in England would probably dispute your questionable opinion.

How does it feel to be so so often, at odds with everyone else on CGN??

 

[BCRider]

Damascus guns were sold new until around 1930 but in the US, proofing was not mandatory. In England, if my memory is correct nitro proofing in the early 1900s was still being done with black powder. Additionally, the first hammerless double shotguns go back to 1878 by Theofilus Murcott, so that seeing a hammerless shotgun with damascus barrels is not proof of it being made during the early years of smokeless. Finally, damascus barrels were still being sold in the early 1900s because there was still a strong demand for them in preference to fluid steel

cheers mooncoon

NEAT!

On the history of black vs smokeless shotgun loads would you know when would the changeover have taken place? I'm thinking that by the mid to late 1920's that smokeless loads would be fairly common. And most folks would likely buy them to use in their Damascus barreled guns. Or was the distinction between Damascus and fluid steel well appreciated even back then?

 

[tiriaq]

Smokeless loads became readily available in the 1890s.
Both black and smokeless loads were available side by side into the 20th century.

 

[bjake]

I wonder if possibly a lot of the concern about Damascus barrels came about when a least some of the ammunition manufacturers put on their boxes not for use in twist or Damascus barrelled guns.

 

[tiriaq]

There certainly was a learning curve for handloading with smokeless.

There were also a lot of really cheap guns. Want to shoot a smokeless short magnum in a Zulu converted musket?

Mooncoon referred to the blowup tests reported in The Double Gun Journal. The experimentation was done with quality guns. It took a LOT to damage the barrels.

Remember that in North America there is no tradition of proof houses.

 

[antiqueguy]

There certainly was a learning curve for handloading with smokeless.

There were also a lot of really cheap guns. Want to shoot a smokeless short magnum in a Zulu converted musket?

Mooncoon referred to the blowup tests reported in The Double Gun Journal. The experimentation was done with quality guns. It took a LOT to damage the barrels.

Remember that in North America there is no tradition of proof houses.

I barely like to shoot my Zulu with black powder I can't even begin to think about shooting it with smokeless

 

[trevj]

Sunray. Did you notice your track record of half truths has fallen down just like a house of cards once again?
You are again in a distinct minority here. Birmingham Proof House in England would probably dispute your questionable opinion.

How does it feel to be so so often, at odds with everyone else on CGN??

You presume he bothers to come back to read after he adds his 'wisdom'.

Cheers
Trev