Japanese Winchesters Any Good?

i have a recent 30 30 takedown. its well made although the wood is almost unfinished i put several coats of tung oil on it. also if you actually like to shoot it the trigger on mine is about 6 pounds i just cant shoot it well offhand. so its nice but i dont use mine much
 
Sorry, don't agree about Pedersoli being of equal quality to Miroku. Pedersoli makes nice looking firearms, no doubt about that, but as for the ultimate quality...the Japanese gun is miles ahead IMHO.

Am I crazy about the tang safety? Not really...

SHELL SHUCKER said:
True, it's dumbass, lawyer crap to add an extra safety to a lever gun that already has a good half #### safety.
Because Winchester is based in the US, Miruko has to add this extra feature along with all the safety BS stamped on the barrel.

Now, for folks that want authentic type Winchester lever guns without any added crap that are of equal quality,
look to Pedersoli. These folks provide the same quality as Miroku and with better grade walnut stocks as well.:)

This one is my Pedersoli 86/71 in .45-70 which is well above Uberti and Chiappa in terms of quality in the same
price range...Fair dinkum.
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I have 4 of the new Miroku's; a 92 Saddle Ring Carbine in .44 Rem Mag, 1886 in .45-70 and one in .45-90 and a new unfired 71 deluxe with gorgeous wood. I absolutely love these rifles and I think they're built better than the originals. I can see past the safety and stamping.
 
Kevin a few places have them in stock. I know Sail and Lebaron in Ontario have 94's in 30-30. I am after a 1892 in .357 and would like to know if any place has one for sale?
 
Yeah, the Miroku manufactured Winchesters are good quality but don't even compare with pre WW2 Winchesters. NOT EVEN CLOSE!!! I don't know what some guys standards are regarding quality?
 
I like the new Winchesters.
I have 92 in 44-40, a 94 in 30-30, and a 95 in 30-40 Krag.

I'm not a traditionalist so the safety is a moot point to me.

My reasoning is the price people want for their patina'd, dented, dinged, and downright POS Pre- 64's for ridiculous prices.
 
Slooshark1 said:
I have 4 of the new Miroku's; a 92 Saddle Ring Carbine in .44 Rem Mag, 1886 in .45-70 and one in .45-90 and a new unfired 71 deluxe with gorgeous wood. I absolutely love these rifles and I think they're built better than the originals. I can see past the safety and stamping.
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I am jealous. I would love a 92 in .44 Rem Mag. If you ever want to trade for a modified CZ SP-01... :p.
I'm actually looking around at shops that have them in stock. I really want either the Miroku 1892 or the Marlin 1894 Cowboy in .44 mag. I got bit by the lever bug.
 
Mike Webb said:
Yeah, the Miroku manufactured Winchesters are good quality but don't even compare with pre WW2 Winchesters. NOT EVEN CLOSE!!! I don't know what some guys standards are regarding quality?
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Your right, the pre-war Winchesters had wood fitted tighter to the metal, but that's all they had. Today's metallurgy and machining far exceed the stuff they used back then. Folks like Miroku & especially Pedersoli also do hand fitting of the parts to ensure a nice product.

The innards of my 1910 M94 Winnie are no where near as precisely made as my Miroku or Pedersoli. In fact, my 1971 & 1978 '94 Winchesters are machined better and have superior barrels compared to the old ones.:)

I must admit though, my old 1910 Winnie "hangs" well for off-hand shootin' due to the 26" barrel.
 
SHELL SHUCKER said:
Your right, the pre-war Winchesters had wood fitted tighter to the metal, but that's all they had. Today's metallurgy and machining far exceed the stuff they used back then. Folks like Miroku & especially Pedersoli also do hand fitting of the parts to ensure a nice product.

The innards of my 1910 M94 Winnie are no where near as precisely made as my Miroku or Pedersoli. In fact, my 1971 & 1978 '94 Winchesters are machined better and have superior barrels compared to the old ones.:)

I must admit though, my old 1910 Winnie "hangs" well for off-hand shootin' due to the 26" barrel.
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would you say that for hard-use lever-actions, a Miroku '94 would be suitable? Something that's not going to fall apart to being shot quite a lot. I am looking for a Marlin 1894 Cowboy but considering how rare they are, the Miroku may be a suitable alternative. I'll drop the coin on a gun but I like to know I can really get my money's worth.
 
There is a lot of mysticism around lever actions, mostly because they appeal to the very specific kind of people.
True is however that even post-64 Winchesters will probably outlast you easily if you will do your part with standard maintenance.
I would love to own Miroku, they are easily the best Winchesters ever made, but you don't have to spend a fortune to buy a nice 94.
 
I would definitely say they are worth the money. You won't be disappointed. It's only expensive when you hand over the cash. After that, you will have an awesome rifle in your hands. And you will feel that way every time you throw that rifle to your shoulder and cycle the the lever as fast as you can, dropping imaginary whitetails that are on a flat out run.
 
Yes indeed, they are worth the coin. You can hunt 'em as well as any original '92 or '94 and they won't let you down.
As with any rifle, maintain it well & don't waste the thing by hot-rodding the loads you feed it.:)
 
Nestor said:
...I would love to own Miroku, they are easily the best Winchesters ever made, but you don't have to spend a fortune to buy a nice 94.
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You don't have to spend a fortune to own a Miroku. A very nice used, but not abused, Miroku made Model 92 in .44 Mag sold for $600 or $650 at a local shop in Ontario about a month ago.
 
I have owned a Browning/Miroku Model 1886 SRC 45-70, a Winchester/Miroku Model 92 45 Colt and a Winchester/Miroku 86 Extra Lightweight 45-70. I still own the Browning and do not plan to sell it in this life. All three had excellent fit and finish and were first class lever guns. I would recommend the Winchester/Miroku rifles without hesitation.
 
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