CCI "ammo availability" topic revisited

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Hey guys~like many of you, I'm growing increasingly frustrated by the lack of availability of CCI products...so I sent another email to them to inquire. Specifically, suggesting that products like "Standard Velocity" just haven't been shipped here in months. I also suggested that since I have a hunch it's still being made, Canada simply isn't getting any of it...so why is that? I know someone who works for a huge distributor in Ontario, so I'm being kept up to speed on what's trickling in from CCI~at least to them. Anyhow, the reply I got from CCI is this;

With the demand for rimfire ammunition, it makes it hard to supply ammunition to all of our customers. This doesn’t matter if it is in the USA, Canada or Europe, ammunition is hard to find. When people stop hoarding ammunition and start shooting what they are buying this will allow the market to return to normal.

Didn't address any of my questions of course, but it got me wondering if any of you in the other provinces (dealers or individuals) have seen Standard Velocity show-up in recently. I personally haven't seen it on the shelf in almost 5-6 months and even then, the shop I was buying it from wouldn't let you buy more than a little at a time. Good problem to have if you're CCI I guess, but the absence of my favorite ammo is making 22 shooting allot less desirable.

Just curious what you're seeing out there, and if it's consistent with the situation in Ontario.
 
My understand from what Ive heard is, companies that pay their bills on time or sooner than the 30-90 day policy most companies have, get first dibs on shippment.
I dont know how CCI does business but he companies Ive worked for, this was standard practice. Thoughs who pay get better service.
 
CCI 22 LR ammo , What that ? -- lol

CT in London rarely has any 22 LR of any kind , Sarnia CT got 3 boxes of value packs the other day , the guy in front of me bought all three at a higher price than what I am use to ..

Montreal area CT stores , Wallymarts , ect have little or No 22 LR stock of any brand ,, according to some of my shooting buddies there ..........??????????

Yesterday at the local CT a guy bought a brand new Henry Golden boy ( 500.00 plus tax , 11 in stock apparently ) but He was really upset when he was told they had No 22 Lr in stock , apparently it was his very first purchase of a fire arm ,, just got his first PAL ...... Felt very bad for the guy ,, I wished him luck finding ammo as I am still looking too .
 
It'd be interesting to see the insides of how these companies work, on the production floor. When there is this much demand for product, you could easily afford to start running 3 shifts, and go 24 hours a day. Hell, for the length of time the shortage has been going you could have paid for an expansion of the facility.

It definitely seems to be a good time to start a quality firearms/ammo company.
 
It'd be interesting to see the insides of how these companies work, on the production floor. When there is this much demand for product, you could easily afford to start running 3 shifts, and go 24 hours a day. Hell, for the length of time the shortage has been going you could have paid for an expansion of the facility.

It definitely seems to be a good time to start a quality firearms/ammo company.

And pretty much all the US manufacturers of ammo have done just that.
 
The one gun store here seems to get CCI in all the time. The other one finally got some new Remington ammo in but no CCI. I bought a little bit just so the raccoons would stop coming around.
 
Ammunition mfgr are reluctant to increase capacity for anything less than a guaranteed 5 year increase in demand :-(
 
I managed to pick up a few thousand rounds of stingers 2 months ago and some federal match too. It's out there but like most when I see it I nab it. I do shoot though. And when I do I shoot a lot. Tonight we had some rouge potatoes and apples that couldn't get along and were causing problems in the pantry. Then a few watermelons got into. We broke up the fight with a couple of bulk packs of 333 Winchester and an assortment of rifles :)
 
I seen this coming so I bought when it was still around. It (cci ammo) does show up here if you pay attention. Be patient or buy sk or eley instead.

I see you're from Saskatoon and I buy all my ammo from Saskatoon and I have never on my life seen sk or eley and I have always wanted to try these brands. Where can a guy find this stuff ?
 
Remember the Dominion 22 ammo that morphed into CIL that morphed into IVI? Canadian made but a lot of people crabbed about it. I always had good shooting with the product and I still have a few small boxes of it today.
IVI was absorbed by General Dynamic who still make all sorts of ammunition, that is except rimfire ammunition. I took it upon myself to inquire as to whether they are/would consider re-entering into rimfire manufacturing again. The reply that I received was that it was not likey as GD had sold all the equipment that manufactured rimfire.
Alas, we are at the mercy of foreign suppliers. Actually, I think our biggest problem is the wholesale distributors in this country, they seem to have a stranglehold on all shooting/firearm/optical supplies. No thanks to the silly export laws from off shore or cross border.
It may ease once Obama gets the punt, but that depends on whether a Democrat gets in on his coat tails.
 
Something else to think about, if CCI only makes approximately 4 cents on a 22 rimfire and they make 40 cents on 9mm, what do you think they will produce more of?
 
Something else to think about, if CCI only makes approximately 4 cents on a 22 rimfire and they make 40 cents on 9mm, what do you think they will produce more of?

You need to factor-in production costs if you're going to make that argument. I'm sure the profit margin on both those calibers is similar.
 
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It'd be interesting to see the insides of how these companies work, on the production floor. When there is this much demand for product, you could easily afford to start running 3 shifts, and go 24 hours a day. Hell, for the length of time the shortage has been going you could have paid for an expansion of the facility.

It definitely seems to be a good time to start a quality firearms/ammo company.


Not necessarily.
With employment laws being what they are, when you commit to hiring people, even part time, you end up committing to a bunch of other costs that may outlive their employment at your company. These are benefits that governments mandate, and they create a certain amount of risk to hiring a new employee. You can't just fire them when they are no longer needed, for example, if the ammo demand diminishes.

That's what government over-regulation (and unions) do to jobs. France is an extreme example of this, but North America is not far behind.
 
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