so I can have a nr 22 shorter than 660mm?

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26 inches overall length is the magic number to stay out of jail . .
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Technically, 25.9843 :)

So, lets agree that a .22 LR has been made by a private individual with a length under 660m. Is it restricted, or prohibited:

“prohibited firearm” means <snip> a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,
(i) is less than 660 mm in length, or (ii) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm (17.9")in length

So, in the case of an "other alteration", does that mean a private individual adding a 12" bbl to his >660mm SR 22 has made a prohib? Of course not. Well, lets hope not. But you can see how we have interpreted "other alteration" to not include manufactured barrels.

Which brings me to: “restricted firearm” means

(c) a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise

In this case the word "otherwise" includes just building a fixed stock rimfire under 660mm is restricted. But see the definition of prohib above.
 
Cool, it's settled. Reminds me of the pixies concert I went to. Ten beer lines all about 40 minutes long. Every person there walked away with 4 cups of beer. I get to the front of the line and ask the lovely Jamaican girly what the limit was. She looked me square in the eyes and Ill never forget her words "limit? There ain't no LIMIT!".
You're all wrong. How low can you go? Enjoy your rights.
 
No, it's not settled. I just got off the phone with one of the techs at the CFP and learned a whole bunch of new info. I started with my TC Contender and asked the tech if I put a factory 10" barrel on it, OAL 24" would it be restricted? Straight answer, NO, totally non-restricted as I was using factory components. I'm even allowed to shorten the LOP of the stock as it is considered an accessory and not the firearm which is the part that designates the class. He then went on to say that I couldn't shorten it too much as they would then describe it as a pistol grip and not a butt-stock but what the deciding length was was a grey area, great! I then asked what if I buy a DAR22 receiver and a Dlask 8" barrel and a Hogue stock and assembled them which would make a firearm less than 26" (660 mm) would that be restricted? Answer again a resounding NO as it doesn't fit the rules for restricted or prohibited so it is then non-restricted. I then asked about a Ruger 10/22 that I bought as a standard 16-18" barreled gun and replaced it with a Dlask 8" barrel. Still non-restricted and I can still adjust the length of pull of the stock. In my excitement I forgot to ask about collapsing and folding stocks on the 10/22. Somebody please phone the techs about this at 1-800-731-4000 then dial 1 and 1 again and then 1090 when you are prompted to put in the 4 digit local.
Here is the bit of news I got that I couldn't believe. ALL RUGER 10/22 AND IT'S VARIANTS PLUS ALL MOSSBERG 715? MAGS HAVE TO BE PINNED TO 10 ROUNDS! This includes BC and any other mag, regardless of capacity, that fits a 10/22 or variant or Mossberg gun. We have to get to work here and raise as big a stink as was raised over the Swiss arms guns. I think this is an even bigger dollar rip than that was. I am going to start a new thread on this right now.
 
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No, it's not settled. I just got off the phone with one of the techs at the CFC and learned a whole bunch of new info. I started with my TC Contender and asked the tech if I put a factory 10" barrel on it, OAL 24" would it be restricted? Straight answer, NO, totally non-restricted as I was using factory components. I'm even allowed to shorten the LOP of the stock as it is considered an accessory and not the firearm which is the part that designates the class. He then went on to say that I couldn't shorten it too much as they would then describe it as a pistol grip and not a butt-stock but what the deciding length was was a grey area, great! I then asked what if I buy a DAR22 receiver and a Dlask 8" barrel and a Hogue stock and assembled them which would make a firearm less than 26" (660 mm) would that be restricted? Answer again a resounding NO as it doesn't fit the rules for restricted or prohibited so it is then non-restricted. I then asked about a Ruger 10/22 that I bought as a standard 16-18" barreled gun and replaced it with a Dlask 8" barrel. Still non-restricted and I can still adjust the length of pull of the stock. In my excitement I forgot to ask about collapsing and folding stocks on the 10/22. Somebody please phone the techs about this at 1-800-731-4000 then dial 1 and 1 again and then 1090 when you are prompted to put in the 4 digit local.
Here is the bit of news I got that I couldn't believe. ALL RUGER 10/22 AND IT'S VARIANTS PLUS ALL MOSSBERG 715? MAGS HAVE TO BE PINNED TO 10 ROUNDS! This includes BC and any other mag, regardless of capacity, that fits a 10/22 or variant or Mossberg gun. We have to get to work here and raise as big a stink as was raised over the Swiss arms guns. I think this is an even bigger dollar rip than that was. I am going to start a new thread on this right now.
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Great news! I'm impressed. I'd be getting that in writing.
 
Where on the RCMP site? What about all the other .22 rifles out there? This would sweep thru a bunch of .22 rifles not just Rugers..... Stupid thing is when was the last time you heard anything nasty happening with a scary 10/22 and a Butler Creek 25 mag, if this is true I hope these idiots get pulled to the mats and let's see the RCMP High River internal report via FOIP!!!!!! Seems things are just being decided on the fly by the uninformed.....,
 
fwiw, nowhere on the BX-25 packaging is compatibility with the Charger pistol mentioned.

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elimsprint said:
No, it's not settled. I just got off the phone with one of the techs at the CFP and learned a whole bunch of new info. I started with my TC Contender and asked the tech if I put a factory 10" barrel on it, OAL 24" would it be restricted? Straight answer, NO, totally non-restricted as I was using factory components. I'm even allowed to shorten the LOP of the stock as it is considered an accessory and not the firearm which is the part that designates the class. He then went on to say that I couldn't shorten it too much as they would then describe it as a pistol grip and not a butt-stock but what the deciding length was was a grey area, great! I then asked what if I buy a DAR22 receiver and a Dlask 8" barrel and a Hogue stock and assembled them which would make a firearm less than 26" (660 mm) would that be restricted? Answer again a resounding NO as it doesn't fit the rules for restricted or prohibited so it is then non-restricted. I then asked about a Ruger 10/22 that I bought as a standard 16-18" barreled gun and replaced it with a Dlask 8" barrel. Still non-restricted and I can still adjust the length of pull of the stock. In my excitement I forgot to ask about collapsing and folding stocks on the 10/22. Somebody please phone the techs about this at 1-800-731-4000 then dial 1 and 1 again and then 1090 when you are prompted to put in the 4 digit local.
Here is the bit of news I got that I couldn't believe. ALL RUGER 10/22 AND IT'S VARIANTS PLUS ALL MOSSBERG 715? MAGS HAVE TO BE PINNED TO 10 ROUNDS! This includes BC and any other mag, regardless of capacity, that fits a 10/22 or variant or Mossberg gun. We have to get to work here and raise as big a stink as was raised over the Swiss arms guns. I think this is an even bigger dollar rip than that was. I am going to start a new thread on this right now.
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good for you to make that phone call ..... but what you need to do is get what he said in writing ,otherwise it is of no use to you while some overzealous police officer is wanting to charge you with a firearms offense .

right now all that is in writing is the 26" oal length rules and the fact that the rcmp issued nonrestricted frt's to some lever action rifles that happen to be 24 inches long .
 
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