If Ar15's became non restricted would Tavors, etc...become extinct.

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I recently and foolishly got rid of my Tavor, and a Ruger sr22. Why I don't know. Wanted to try somthing different I guess. A couple months later however I decided I needed a Black Rifle again and traded in a couple of firearms I didn't use much on a Core15 Tac3. I have always liked Ar's, just not there classification. However I finally broke down and decided to join the club. Now my question to you is if Ar's were to ever somehow become non restricted would people still show interest in other "black rifle" platforms.
 
If AR's were non restricted I would still be interested in other black rifles. I have several, including the Tavor I hope to own one day. Sadly many of the ones I want are prohibited.
 
Most probably not since you cant beat the price for an AR these days, but then the probability of that happening (ar=non rest) is pretty damn slim, but I still dream...
 
Would keep the Tavor for sure! It's a cool concept and a reliable firearm. And it looks awesome. I would get rid of the XCR, never think of a T97, Benelli, Beretta etc. again. But would get a Noveske, a DD, a Colt, a KAC and even a HK or SIG and each in a different barrel length! ARs are soooo ###y!!
 
We'd see a drastic change in the price points of most current "black" non restricted rifles. The standard $3000 price point would collapse.
 
Nine said:
We'd see a drastic change in the price points of most current "black" non restricted rifles. The standard $3000 price point would collapse.
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And yet, when anyone asks why the hell 9 pounds of steel and molded plastic is worth $3000, when a 500 lb lawn tractor can be bought for half that, all hell breaks loose.
 
While the AR is a very good and versatile platform , it is not the be all end all rifle. There will be other platforms coming to market that will suit different tastes.
Take a look south of the border at the growing popularity of other platforms , Tavor , Scar , AK , ACR and so on. While these do not have as big sales numbers due to these designs being licenced ( not theAK). I bet if every mom & pop shop with a cnc machine could pump out these designs the market would be different and the AR share would start to shrink.
 
I would get an AR or one of the many clones in a heart beat if non restricted. Lots of different parts and mix and match stuff to play with, but bloody useless to me as i don't use a range other than the one in my back yard. Will stick to my Kel-tec or Tikka for coyotes.
 
The funny thing is time and time again the nearly milsurp AR platform is being adopted around the world. Many first world armies are ditching their proprietary designs/rifles and adopting an AR15 type flavor or issue their proprietary crap to the grunts and give AR15 types to their special forces. e.g. British with their SA80, Germans with their "new" G27/28, etc...

Take the bells and whistles off, and you have the same design that dates back to the 50's that's just as effective today as it was then.
 
Peoples tastes may have changed some since the 80s and early 90s but I doubt that much. ARs become NR tomorrow and you will see a sharp decline in every other guns sales. This was the case Pre-1994. (To note very few of us used Carbines as well, the CAR-15 design sales took off Post-1994).
 
Nine said:
We'd see a drastic change in the price points of most current "black" non restricted rifles. The standard $3000 price point would collapse.
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I think this ^^^ Tavors, T97's, etc...would still be around, there's enough guys out there just looking to own something the next guy doesn't, but I think sales would taper off fairly sharply. I could also see some traditional semi auto hunting rifles like the BAR and Remington 7400 taking a hit if 7.62x39 AR's or .308 AR10's became easily and widely available. Especially with the $600 Norinco and DPMS kicking around now.

Heck, I'd buy three or four of the things probably.....a nice heavy barrelled AR would be cat's ass on coyotes.
 
I heard a rumor of an other non-res AR type soon to be available in Canada. No word on when, or price at this point, but the first regulatory hurdles are crossed so they say and testing will begin soon. We may see another example of this species in the market.

Would non-res status of the AR possibly raise the price due to demand? At least in the short term I think they would fly off the shelves and we could see low inventory levels in the short term which could drive the prices up.
 
tootall said:
And yet, when anyone asks why the hell 9 pounds of steel and molded plastic is worth $3000, when a 500 lb lawn tractor can be bought for half that, all hell breaks loose.
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It's because the raw materials are an insignificant part of the cost. There are numerous other factors too, such as higher labour costs for guns produced in small numbers in Israel/Switzerland, etc, while the lawn tractor is made in some third world country where the workers are paid a pittance of a wage. There are also other factors such as low production numbers for these specialized, often made/custom ordered for the Canadian market firearms, while these lawn tractors are exported world wide in the same configuration.

So, in short, all he'll breaks loose because people don't understand economics.
 
Nine said:
We'd see a drastic change in the price points of most current "black" non restricted rifles. The standard $3000 price point would collapse.
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I highly doubt that. Demand and prices would fall a little bit, but there isn't a huge amount of wiggle room for the retailers/distributors. Either the price would fall a few points, or they would no longer be imported due to there not being enough money in it for the importers.

Case in point, the Tavor has been relatively unaffected by the T97 coming to market.
 
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