FB Radom MSBS MSBS-5,56K & MSBS-5,56B Live Fire New Bullpup

Ebola said:
Shared upper receiver will most likely mean the bullpup is prohibited in canada.
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Why is that? The only prohibited bullpups are ones that can fire without the stock. This is why you can't add a bullpup stock to an SKS for example but you can own a Tavor or RFB.
As long as it meets the requirements and can't be fired without the lower it should clear as restricted or even non restricted if the barrel and OAL are long enough.
 
cr5 said:
Why is that? The only prohibited bullpups are ones that can fire without the stock. This is why you can't add a bullpup stock to an SKS for example but you can own a Tavor or RFB.
As long as it meets the requirements and can't be fired without the lower it should clear as restricted or even non restricted if the barrel and OAL are long enough.
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It is the stock itself that is prohibited and not the action. Doesn't matter if it can fire or not in the least. It only matters if the overall length is reduced and the action is located behind the trigger with the installation of a bull pup stock. If major parts of this rifle such as the upper assembly, barrel, ect ect are interchangeable between the normal rifle stock and the bullpup rifle stock that will mean the bullpup rifle stock itself will be prohibited in Canada. Anyways we are debating a mute point here. This rifle will never make it Canada anyways.
PROHIBITED DEVICES
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 9

1. Any electrical or mechanical device that is designed or adapted to operate the trigger mechanism of a semi-automatic firearm for the purpose of causing the firearm to discharge cartridges in rapid succession.

2. Any rifle, shotgun or carbine stock of the type known as the “bull-pup” design, being a stock that, when combined with a firearm, reduces the overall length of the firearm such that a substantial part of the reloading action or the magazine-well is located behind the trigger of the firearm when it is held in the normal firing position.
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This is a rifle that nobody needs or wants.

Is there really that much demand for another G36 clone (and by that I mean an AR-18 in a plastic shell)?
 
Ebola said:
It is the stock itself that is prohibited and not the action. Doesn't matter if it can fire or not in the least. It only matters if the overall length is reduced and the action is located behind the trigger with the installation of a bull pup stock. If major parts of this rifle such as the upper assembly, barrel, ect ect are interchangeable between the normal rifle stock and the bullpup rifle stock that will mean the bullpup rifle stock itself will be prohibited in Canada. Anyways we are debating a mute point here. This rifle will never make it Canada anyways.
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Your quote is referring to a firearm you add a stock to not a firearm manufactured in a bullpup configuration. Like I said, if it meets the barrel and overall length requirements it could even make it as non restricted like the Tavor or RFB.

It's moot not mute.
 
Ebola said:
It is the stock itself that is prohibited and not the action. Doesn't matter if it can fire or not in the least. It only matters if the overall length is reduced and the action is located behind the trigger with the installation of a bull pup stock. If major parts of this rifle such as the upper assembly, barrel, ect ect are interchangeable between the normal rifle stock and the bullpup rifle stock that will mean the bullpup rifle stock itself will be prohibited in Canada. Anyways we are debating a mute point here. This rifle will never make it Canada anyways.
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The lower contains an integral part of the firing mechanism (trigger group and magwell), and as such is not a stock.

Why don't you think it will make it to Canada?
 
Ebola said:
It is the stock itself that is prohibited and not the action. Doesn't matter if it can fire or not in the least. It only matters if the overall length is reduced and the action is located behind the trigger with the installation of a bull pup stock. If major parts of this rifle such as the upper assembly, barrel, ect ect are interchangeable between the normal rifle stock and the bullpup rifle stock that will mean the bullpup rifle stock itself will be prohibited in Canada. Anyways we are debating a mute point here. This rifle will never make it Canada anyways.
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You mean like the non restricted M17s? It has an upper and lower in much the same fashion.
 
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