22LR AR mag capacity.

[cr5]

Question for the guys with the uppers or BCG conversions. Or guys more fluent in firearms laws than I am.
I keep reading guys talking about their 22LR AR's and the black dog mags being 26 rounds of AR fun and I see Questar is selling the 50 round drums that are compatible with the AR lower. Am I missing something here? My understanding is that only non restricted rimfire is allowed more than 10 rounds and that if you are using a restricted rimfire rifle or pistol you are limited to 10 rounds, maybe even 5 in a rifle.
I'm thinking of the S&W M&P 15-22 as an example for mag capacity. That rifle comes with 10 round mags and it is illegal to run mags of higher capacity as far as I know.
So how are guys doing this and buying these mags without them being pinned?

I ask because I own 5 AR's and think I should add a rimfire upper to the collection to help lower shooting costs but don't want to risk getting in trouble with 20+ round mags in my restricted rifle.

Thanks

 

[Shooter1of38]

For the most part...rim fire rifle equates to no mag cap.

Some exceptions exist if the rifle's pistol counterpart uses the same mag.

Black Dog is the go to for high cap rim fire drum mags.

 

[yohann160]

Standard capacity rimfire mags for AR's are un-regulated items.

 

[camster]

As suggested, your example (S&W) comes in a pistol form too. That affects legal status of the magazines (limited to 10). Mossberg released a pistol version of their 715, which may jeopardize all the 25rd magazines for the parent rifle.

Funny thing is that advertising on a package is enough to change the legal status of a magazine. A magazine that fits your 10/22 must be limited to 10 if it says it fits a "Charger" on the package. If the packaging doesn't say "Charger", it is obviously just for a rifle, and thereby legal.

Not saying it's ok, just how it is. Whatever you do, don't try to apply logic or reason to many of our firearm laws. The unrestricted Squires Bingham model 20 (classical appearing .22), and 1600/ 16R(with retractable stock) are considerably less dangerous than their AK appearing counterpart which was classified as an AK "variant".

Lots of dressed up 10/22's out there and you can sling a drum-full out of them.

 

[cr5]

As suggested, your example (S&W) comes in a pistol form too. That affects legal status of the magazines (limited to 10). Mossberg released a pistol version of their 715, which may jeopardize all the 25rd magazines for the parent rifle.

Funny thing is that advertising on a package is enough to change the legal status of a magazine. A magazine that fits your 10/22 must be limited to 10 if it says it fits a "Charger" on the package. If the packaging doesn't say "Charger", it is obviously just for a rifle, and thereby legal.

Not saying it's ok, just how it is. Whatever you do, don't try to apply logic or reason to many of our firearm laws. The unrestricted Squires Bingham model 20 (classical appearing .22), and 1600/ 16R(with retractable stock) are considerably less dangerous than their AK appearing counterpart which was classified as an AK "variant".

Lots of dressed up 10/22's out there and you can sling a drum-full out of them.

Yes but 10/22's are a non restricted rifle, therefore unlimited magazine capacity.
I'm trying to figure out how a restricted AR in 22LR get's around the magazine capacity limits. You're saying that as long as there isn't a pistol version then the rifle is unlimited but if there is a pistol version then it's limited to 10?

You're right, it was stupid to try to apply even the slightest amount of logic or reason to the firearms laws. I already knew it was dumb but this is wetawded.

Good to know though, I may just have to start shopping for a dedicated 22LR upper now.

 

[little_airwolf]

Chiappa makes a pistol upper and rifle upper. ses same mags, thus all factory mags need to be pinned to ten.
Silly Canadian laws. Get around them saying its only designed for the riflen All the time knowing it works for the pistol.
Think of the dozen or so hi cap aftermarket 10/22 mags.
This is how silly the law is!

 

[camster]

Yes but 10/22's are a non restricted rifle, therefore unlimited magazine capacity.
I'm trying to figure out how a restricted AR in 22LR get's around the magazine capacity limits. You're saying that as long as there isn't a pistol version then the rifle is unlimited but if there is a pistol version then it's limited to 10?
No. If the package a magazine comes in suggests it's a for a pistol it must be restricted to 10
You're right, it was stupid to try to apply even the slightest amount of logic or reason to the firearms laws. I already knew it was dumb but this is wetawded.

Good to know though, I may just have to start shopping for a dedicated 22LR upper now.

I did the red ink thing up there.

Not being snobby/Fudd, but AR-type .22's aren't really my thing; I dunno the legal status of the parent rifles (S&W M&P 15-22, etc...). If you have a non-restricted rimfire, there is no legal restriction on magazine capacity. Belt-feed it as fast as you can load...no issue. A magazine that is "by design" for a pistol is limited capacity. You're not gettin' all freaky here; In the centerfire world; if a CF pistol magazine happens to fit your rifle you may sling 10 rds from it instead of 5, in the rimfire world capacities become limited to 10 from infinite.

 

[Caswell]

Yes but 10/22's are a non restricted rifle, therefore unlimited magazine capacity.

Being in a restricted or non-restricted gun makes no difference to the allowed capacity.

Any rimfire mag that was intend for use in a rifle or pistol -> Limited to 10 rounds.
Any rimfire mag that was intended for use in only a rifle -> Unlimited

Basically, if you can buy them from a gun store...you can put them in your restricted AR15, assuming it's chambered to .22LR.

 

[little_airwolf]

Being in a restricted or non-restricted gun makes no difference to the allowed capacity.

Any rimfire mag that was intend for use in a rifle or pistol -> Limited to 10 rounds.
Any rimfire mag that was intended for use in only a rifle -> Unlimited

Basically, if you can buy them from a gun store...you can put them in your restricted AR15, assuming it's chambered to .22LR.

Wrong, laws change and new guns are made, ask the 715T guys and 10/22 guys that bought the BX25 mags
Just cause you didn't know, still makes it illegal, sorry to say
Plus I know stores that have sold prohibited mags and restricted guns as non restricted.
Incompetents doesn't get you off the hook!!!!

 

[jordanmalmal]

I have a black dog 50 round drum... it's awesome!

 

[Hitzy]

Wrong, laws change and new guns are made, ask the 715T guys and 10/22 guys that bought the BX25 mags
Just cause you didn't know, still makes it illegal, sorry to say
Plus I know stores that have sold prohibited mags and restricted guns as non restricted.
Incompetents doesn't get you off the hook!!!!

Uhhh what exactly did he say that was wrong?

 

[Caswell]

Wrong, laws change and new guns are made, ask the 715T guys and 10/22 guys that bought the BX25 mags
Just cause you didn't know, still makes it illegal, sorry to say
Plus I know stores that have sold prohibited mags and restricted guns as non restricted.
Incompetents doesn't get you off the hook!!!!

That would be the reason I said "basically". I did not intend it to be 100% accurate. I guess there is a chance of a unaware/shady/dumb gun store selling illegal mags, but I don't see it being very high.

I was trying to illustrate that any rimfile magazine that is legal in Canada, is legal to use in an AR15 with a .22LR conversion.

 

[hoytcanon]

Wrong, laws change and new guns are made, ask the 715T guys and 10/22 guys that bought the BX25 mags
Just cause you didn't know, still makes it illegal, sorry to say
Plus I know stores that have sold prohibited mags and restricted guns as non restricted.
Incompetents doesn't get you off the hook!!!!

That's true... laws can change... for example, let's say that some "little" twit orders prohibited magazines from the USA and they get confiscated at the border... and then the twit has the nerve to whine about it... and even has the nerve to launch a complaint with authorities... because he won't rest until everyone looses their magazines...

Kinda like that...