Dagger SAP6 - Mag-fed 12-Gauge review

Kevin M.

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Had this one for about a week now, and had it out on a good weekend trip this past weekend to play around with it a bit.

Overall I really like it, it is an interesting new take on magazine fed shotguns.



The heavy duty steel magazine holds 6 shells (It will actually hold 7, but you can not insert it on a closed bolt with 7 in the mag), and accepts both 2-3/4" and 3" shells. The magazine lever is nice and big, and allows for straight insertions and drops.

The biggest difference of this shotgun to most traditional designs is that the pump is spring loaded, with a large spring running around what is traditionally the tube magazine. This means that the gun does not have or need a bolt release button, it is held in battery by spring pressure alone. While some could potentially view this as a problem, it seems to work well so far in practice. The biggest thing to get used to is strongly cocking it back to overcome the spring pressure to avoid short stroking the gun and causing a feed malfunction. Takes a bit of getting used to a pump shotgun that is spring loaded, but once you get it, it feels very natural.

The action on the gun is buttery smooth, likely due in large part to the spring powered pump. The trigger is much like any shotgun on the market nowadays, but very useable.

The safety, like the lower receiver, is made of weapons grade polymer. The safety sucks. It takes a strong push from your thumb or index finger to even budge it... it needs some work or a lot of wear in time to be a realistic and useful safety device. Until I deal with the safety, when hiking with the gun, I just leave the chamber empty, since there is no pump release button, it is very fast to rack a shell into the chamber.

At the current moment, higher capacity magazines and barrels threaded for choke are on the horizon, but not yet available.

Overall, I really like it. As a first gen model, it has a few small quirks, but it is an awesome gun overall.


Now, onto the pics... heck, I missed my calling as a firearms photographer lol.












Pretty nice day, and a pretty nice view!



Approx 50 meters to target.



View through the EOtech.



The results of the 2 magazines rapid fired on target, as shown in the video below. I have not yet bothered to put this gun on paper for accuracy, as I did not have a variety of slugs to test, nor the patience on this particular weekend lol.


 
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Thanks for posting that.

Did you perchance shoot it without your hand on the pump handle?


Can't say I have tried that, not that I can actually remember trying that with any shotgun...

Interesting question though, I will try that next time I have it out. My thoughts are that it will not have any major effect, no different than how some heavy loads will open the bolt a half inch on most standard pump shotguns, except the spring would put it back into battery with the empty shell until you cycle it.
 
On second recollection, IIRC from my early inspection of the gun, there is actually a milled slot in the top inside of the receiver, and some kind of lug protrudes from the bolt when the pump is fully forward, and will not retract by any force on the bolt, but only by pulling the pump handle rearwards, thus locking the action during firing. I will double check myself for any errors in my memory tonight.
 
I had an 870 that would eject on it's own if you shot it one handed. If it had a spring on the pump it probably wouldn't have completely ejected but it would certainly have gone back into battery.

I'm just curious.:)
 
Have you tried pointing/aiming the gun without an optic installed?

I'm curious how well the top rail works as a vent-rib sight.
 
How long have you been saving that you tube link?

Thanks for the review, it's nice to see a "functional" departure from traditional shotgun design.

See you at the precision clinic... Fee advertising for Barney.
 
I'll add my thanks for the review and video, Kevin! Just finished reading the TI thread, and with your input, one of these might well be on the radar!

And yes, very nice photos as well! :)
 
I'll add my thanks for the review and video, Kevin! Just finished reading the TI thread, and with your input, one of these might well be on the radar!

And yes, very nice photos as well! :)

You are most welcome. I love sharing info with the community, it helps everybody out, and if nothing else gives a guy who is bored a few minutes of reading material.
 
.........there is actually a milled slot in the top inside of the receiver, and some kind of lug protrudes from the bolt when the pump is fully forward, and will not retract by any force on the bolt, but only by pulling the pump handle rearwards, thus locking the action during firing. I will double check myself for any errors in my memory tonight.

I was going to ask if there was a locking lug; good to hear. So in your opinion Kev, is it worth the price tag?
 
Does the stock look or feel like it will be prone to early breakage ?, I notice on the ordering page that extra stocks are available and just struck me as odd.

Have you had the gun apart yet ?, will an 870 stock fit ?
 
Here we go, vid is uploading, but here are a few pics.

Overall, yes, I think that it is good value for the gun. There are a few small details that are not perfect that I have pointed out, mainly the stiff safety, but overall I am very happy with the purchase.

Replacement stock option from the website:



Magazine.










 
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