I'm considering getting a Tavor and am wondering what you owners are getting for groups? I'm shooting an Xcr keymod and am getting a solid 2 moa and am very happy. Can I expect the same shooting 55 gr handloads ??
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Tavor accuracy
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I bought a Tavor GenII for fun to see if I would like it. I also had in mind that I would hunt with it since it would be so short / handy in the woods. I never took the time to hand load for it because I decided that between its heavy trigger and unconventional shape, it wouldn't be suited for any accurate shots on a coyote over 100m. I found it hard to have a nice clean trigger pull and it was tricky to rest the rifle on anything for long shots. As for accuracy, I was getting in the 2-3MOA range with a PST 4-16x50 scope.
At the end of the day make sure you consider what purpose you have in mind for the Tavor. As a plinker it was great fun and I'm sure it would do well in 3-gun or a tactical match or something similar.
For me, I think I'm going back to the MR1 for a NR black-ish coyote rifle.
At the end of the day make sure you consider what purpose you have in mind for the Tavor. As a plinker it was great fun and I'm sure it would do well in 3-gun or a tactical match or something similar.
For me, I think I'm going back to the MR1 for a NR black-ish coyote rifle.
For my barrel that resulted in poorer accuracy, not sure why, but thats how my tests proved it. best was vmax and zombie max which are the same.
With a member of the club, he own a FDE Tavor gen2, i own a KAC SR-15 mod 2... We both shot each other rifle and while extremely pleasant to shoot, the Tavor were always at the 2 MOA + in groups, the KAC with Barnaul 62 gr was always around MOA or less, this was a one hour experience, it may mean nothing... The biggest advantage of the Tavor is the NR status... For range work, KAC all the way... Just a personal opinion... JP.
Look at the HK SL8-4 if you want accuracy. I've owned 2 of them and they were both capable of just a little better than 1moa with the right ammo.
They are a great rifle and used ones can be had for a pretty good price.
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I'm really interested in this thread. Anyone else have accuracy reports for Tavor gen 2's? I have seen a few videos at 200 yrds but not many. Not a big sample. Any others get out at the 100 yrd range and have a report?
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Find Mikes report. He linked to it a while ago. Best one on here so far.
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http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...ammo-review/page7?highlight=tavor+ammo+review
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...ammo-review/page7?highlight=tavor+ammo+review
For my Tavor @ 100yds, I get about 3" groups with bulk AE 55gr, and my handloads (53gr Hornady Match HP, 21.5gr Hodgdon Benchmark) are not much better. This was after I installed my new Timney trigger and a Bushnell Elite 2.5-16x40 scope. I usually use an Aimpoint PRO on the Tavor, but wanted to see how accurately I can shoot it, so I borrowed the scope off one of my other rifles. I don't find the Tavor to be that accurate.
My XCR-L also shoots about 3-4" groups with the AE 55gr (it really is very crappy ammo). But with my handloads the best I've been able to do is 2".
My Les Baer AR-15 does about 2" with the AE, about .75" with my handloads, and I've actually been able to shoot under .5" (once) with Federal Gold Medal loaded with the 69gr SMK.
Now, all three of these guns cost around $3k. If you are going to spend that much on a semi-auto rifle and want accuracy, the Les Baer or similar AR is what you want. If you want a NR semi-auto, I think the XCR is a bit more accurate than the Tavor. The Tavor is an interesting gun, but its shape makes shooting off a bench not quite as easy as the more conventional rifles, at least for me.
My XCR-L also shoots about 3-4" groups with the AE 55gr (it really is very crappy ammo). But with my handloads the best I've been able to do is 2".
My Les Baer AR-15 does about 2" with the AE, about .75" with my handloads, and I've actually been able to shoot under .5" (once) with Federal Gold Medal loaded with the 69gr SMK.
Now, all three of these guns cost around $3k. If you are going to spend that much on a semi-auto rifle and want accuracy, the Les Baer or similar AR is what you want. If you want a NR semi-auto, I think the XCR is a bit more accurate than the Tavor. The Tavor is an interesting gun, but its shape makes shooting off a bench not quite as easy as the more conventional rifles, at least for me.
Did you do load development for each rifle or just shoot a handload that worked well in one rifle through the other 2? With proper load development I think you should be able to get your Tavor groups down to at least 2 moa. Bullpups are also harder to get set up properly on a rest which makes it hard to make good groups off the bench. My RFB was a real pain in the butt till I figured out a way to support it well.
Either way, these are battle rifles and shouldn't be bought if your number one goal is to make tiny groups, well except for the Les Baer. I'd love to own one of those
Did you do load development for each rifle or just shoot a handload that worked well in one rifle through the other 2? With proper load development I think you should be able to get your Tavor groups down to at least 2 moa. Bullpups are also harder to get set up properly on a rest which makes it hard to make good groups off the bench. My RFB was a real pain in the butt till I figured out a way to support it well.
Either way, these are battle rifles and shouldn't be bought if your number one goal is to make tiny groups, well except for the Les Baer. I'd love to own one of those
I have just started reloading and these are just the starting loads. In fact I decided to learn to reload specifically for the Les Baer since finding accurate ammo is difficult and usually quite expensive. I'm hoping to get them about as accurate as the Federal Gold medal cartridges in my Les Baer. I don't plan on developing handloads for the other 2 guns, as I consider them more as fun guns and I am happy shooting cheap bulk ammo in them.
Is the Les Baer as good and as reliable as everyone says it is?
As far as build quality, yes it is very well made and the upper and lower receivers are almost like a single unit. I can't say too much about long term reliability yet, but the gun doesn't seem to like being run dirty. I get the occasional ftf after shooting several hundred rounds. Cleaning the gun seems to solve it. Basically, I treat this gun like a precision instrument so I'm not planning on doing any torture testing on it.
Look at my post for the proofs of 1.75 MOA
Agreed. 3-4 moa at best. People claiming better accuracy with a Tavor are: a) delusional b) blowing smoke up your skirt to justify their purchase. They are a pretty cool little rifle, so if you purchase one without the expectation of better than some of the claimed accuracy reports, the chances of being satisfied with the purchase will be far greater.
