Blackfeather LSP or Vltor CASV-14 for M14

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Hi, I have both the Vltor and Blackfeather stocks, now thinking about a rail system for looks and mounting optics. Pros and Cons of the 2. My understanding is that they are interchangable.
 
Quick Comparison, Facts Only (Disclaimer: comparison is being done here by manufacturer of the M14.ca LSP as per forum rules):

M14.ca LSP.............................VLTOR CASV-14

Monolithic (one piece)..............Multi-component assemblage
OAL 22.25".............................OAL 17"
11.7oz (net wt. gain, 6oz.)*......13.5oz (net weight gain 10.5oz)*
Irons (on top rail only)..............Irons supported (yes, original)
Rearward balance (yes)............Rearward balance (no)
Rail extension at heel (yes).......Rail extension at heel (no)
Mounting: Two steel compression
bands + sight ear pocket..........Mounting: Side mount bolt, stripper clip interface, oprod guide collar (steel)
Price $329.95 CDN..................Price $365.00 CDN
Colors: Black, FDE..................Colors: Black, FDE, OD Green

Please advise any factual errors.

*(net weight gain after removal of rear iron sights and original hand guard for LSP)
*(net weight gain after removal of original hand guard for CASV-14)
*(all weights are approximate).

I hope that helps. Cheers, Frank (As always, call, PM or email 8am to 8pm, 7 days for more details or questions about this product).
 
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fritzhanzel said:
Hi, I have both the Vltor and Blackfeather stocks, now thinking about a rail system for looks and mounting optics. Pros and Cons of the 2. My understanding is that they are interchangable.
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A good question to ask yourself is do you plan to put a scope with qd rings? If not then you don't loose anything with lsp! Cause what's the point of keeping your irons if you have a non feild removable scope set-up? I feel both are to much rail for my need I prefer the casm gen 2 but I will say the lsp looks amazing! Plus it's Canadian made and frank will give you great service!

Edit: another difference, the vltor is free flot from the op rod guide forward while the lsp is attached to the barrel at the front. Does it matter for accuracy? Time will tel, I would guess not but I don't know much about that stuff.
 
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Frank I have a good question for you, in your net gain calculations could you include for kicks remouving the stripper clip guide with the lsp see how much total weight difference? As I see it the guide is 100% pointless? No? And with the other system you need the guide plus 99% of people will keep the rear site; while your at it might as well remouve the front site as well and trow that in the equation cause what's the front site worth wen you dont have a rear!
 
How about measuring balance? 2 scales re-zeroed with shooting bags on one scale up front and one back. Would be neat to see stock m14 vs m14 with lsp with out front site and stripper clip guide?
 
rally guy said:
Frank I have a good question for you, in your net gain calculations could you include for kicks removing the stripper clip guide and see how much total weight difference?
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If memory serves, the stripper clip guide weighs exactly 1oz., therefore, you could remove 1oz. from the net weight gain totals I gave earlier from both upper hand guard/scope mount assemblies mentioned. Thanks for this post. It reminds me to update our "M14 Weights in Pictures" thread.

Edit: it took a few minutes, but I found the stripper clip guide. Here is the actual weight. Note that this posting is for an accurate weight count, not much else. :) Cheers!

M14.ca_Stripper_Clip_Guide.JPG
 
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I see a flat top design now giving use of a BUIS and cowitness optics availability. Neat, might have to give the LSP a try.
 
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