Wow Wolves

Here is a little bit of reading about Algonquin wolve's appearance:

General Appearance: .. Eastern Wolves (and therefore Red Wolves) are very small in size compared to the Gray Wolf (Canis lupus) living in the boreal forest north of Lake Superior in Ontario. .... Most people lucky enough to catch a quick glimpse of an Eastern Wolf in the wild for the first time are surprised by the animal's small size (only about 60 to 68 centimetres at the shoulder). People .... often believe that they have seen a Coyote (Canis latrans) in Algonquin Park. Coyotes are generally absent from Algonquin Park, since wolves will regularly kill any trespasser into their territory and Coyotes have a difficult time finding food in completely forested environments.

Unfortunately, this article is somewhat old and I understand that Coyotes have now almost replaced wolves in the Western Townships of Algonquin park and are pushing into the Western half of the park itself.
 
Last edited:
Silverado said:
Wow. I had no idea that wolves down east could be confused for coyotes.
Click to expand...

I've posted about this before, but rural coyotes in the East are huge compared to western ones, adapting to killing deer for a living. And while they may be natural enemies, some horny red wolves contributed genetic material to them as they passed through the very wolfy Algonquin Park on their way east, as in fact have grey wolves.
 
rhino519 said:
are the wolves not protected in 50?
Click to expand...

doublelung said:
No, but you have to buy a seal for them as well as coyote.
Click to expand...

It's not that simple in the WMU's and Townships surrounding Algonquin Park, especially when referring to the Township Labels in the hunting regs.

If you look on page #88 of this years regs, you see a long list of townships in which there is no wolf or coyote season. Essentially, these townships form a ring around Algonquin Park.
Then, if you go look at the WMU maps, you can easily find some of those townships listed, but others are nowhere to be found on the WMU map. This is because they are former township names, and have been amalgamated into larger townships.

An example inside WMU 50 would be Lake of Bays township. On the WMU list, you don't find Lake of Bays listed as a township without a wolf season. But the former townships of Franklin, Sinclair & Finlayson are on the no-hunt list and are now part of Lake of Bays township.

I'm actually trying to locate all the former townships right now, and I suspect some of them will now be part of Kearney township, which makes up the majority of the central portion of WMU 50.

Confused? I am.

Our deer camp is in WMU50, Township of Lake of Bays. I'm not sure which former township it's located in but given our proximity to Algonquin Park I've always been told by my dad not shoot wolves there...which sucks cause they thick as thieves in there!

If anyone can correct me on my findings please do, cause I want to shoot wolves at out camp!
 
Home3 said:
Red wolf population is all but decimated and replaced in WMU 50 and surroundings due to invasion of Coyotes. And they are moving Eastward fast.

Unfortunately, Red wolves and Coyotes are almost identical in appearance, although two different species (Red wolves kill coyotes every chance they get). So uneducated hunters who take them as Coyotes may have contributed to this.

Either what you are seeing are pesky invasive Coyotes or they are the last remaining native wolves in that area. If they are Wolves, by killing them you are doing a disservice to the local wildlife and environment as Coyotes are far more damaging to the environment and deer and moose population. Not to mention you are breaking the law. Killing Wolves in that area is like sending Coyotes an invitation letter to move in.

Hold your fire and do some reading first. Nothing wrong with being a hunter and conscious about your surroundings too.
Click to expand...


Kill them all.
 
Demonical said:
Kill them all.
Click to expand...

Is that a battle cry or a responsible hunter's comment? If it is the latter, would you care to explain why? Where the direct result of killing wolves is for Coyotes to move in forever and wreak havoc on fawn/calf population? Fortunately, the locals disagree with you.

When I first started hunting in eastern townships of the Algonquin park (I have since bought my own land), a local hunters gave me two advice (kind of warnings!); 1. there are no Coyotes here, only wolves 2. don't kill them! Among the group I hunt with, you will be very unpopular. And they are all real locals, some semi-illiterate who have hunted to feed their family since they were 8-9 years old. I take their wisdom over yours.
 
Lots of wolves/coyotes in WMU49 as well. I could hear them howling almost every night while bear hunting. Seen lots of tracks in the mud, and have trail cam pics of them over the years. Have seen more sign this year then ever. I hope I see a few during the moose hunt and deer hunt.


these are what they look like, long legged coyotes to me.....


MDGC0118.jpg
 
That is a coyote. I can tell by its pointy nose and forward facing ears. By the rest of it, size and color, I can't tell.

After watching many video clips of algonquian/eastern wolves on my property, the only thing that I have accomplished is that wolves have a more rounder face and shorter rears more to the sides, kind of like a rottweiler look and coyotes have a more pointed nose and ears on top, kind of like a collie. Hard to see that when they are 300 yards away.
 
Last edited:
Home3 said:
Red wolf population is all but decimated and replaced in WMU 50 and surroundings due to invasion of Coyotes. And they are moving Eastward fast.

Unfortunately, Red wolves and Coyotes are almost identical in appearance, although two different species (Red wolves kill coyotes every chance they get). So uneducated hunters who take them as Coyotes may have contributed to this.

Either what you are seeing are pesky invasive Coyotes or they are the last remaining native wolves in that area. If they are Wolves, by killing them you are doing a disservice to the local wildlife and environment as Coyotes are far more damaging to the environment and deer and moose population. Not to mention you are breaking the law. Killing Wolves in that area is like sending Coyotes an invitation letter to move in.

Hold your fire and do some reading first. Nothing wrong with being a hunter and conscious about your surroundings too.
Click to expand...
Red Wolves were made up by the antis from Toronto to further limit hunting. Death by a thousand cuts.
 
About a week ago, my partner and I were in our tree stands watching bear baits in WMU 60 when a pack of wolves came to within about 50 yards on the edge of darkness, howling up a real storm, including yelps from young ones.

I hunt wolves in the winter but have to buy a $10 tag. It's good to the end of March and then again the same tag is good from September through to the end of December of the same year. So I don't consider that a bad deal.

Bob

www.bigbores.ca
 
Guy JR said:
Red Wolves were made up by the antis from Toronto to further limit hunting. Death by a thousand cuts.
Click to expand...

Discovered through DNA as I heard it. It was previously assumed they were grey wolves. There's a heck of a difference between them and coyotes and for sure the wolves won't walk up to you whereas the coyotes will sometimes, esp if you're small, like a kid or a teenager. That's what worries me.
 
I was out hunting bear with the dog, using a rabbit squealer.

Wasn't seeing/hearing anything so I lay down behind a log and took a 20min catnap in the sunshine. When I stood up to take a leak afterwards, about 1/2 a dozen different spots around us started moving away, the dog was going nuts....
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom