The Modern Hunter Rifle UPDATED December 10 2015
- Thread starter alberta tactical rifle
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You ARE correct! We will be printing the full FRT notice and associated paperwork received from the RCMP lab and providing it to every client.
Given that so few LE agents actually know or care about the firearms laws that they are paid to enforce, to try and protect our clients from issues created by ignorance on behalf of LE we feel it prudent to provide this and STRONGLY suggest that everyone keeps a copy of the paperwork with them for production in the event of being challenged.
This is not meant as a put down of the LE agencies, I realize that there are a ton of laws to know about and that things DO keep changing. However there are a few officers that have proven to fail when it comes to being reasonable on enforcing laws they know little or nothing about and have consequently ruined some folks lives due to their ignorance or misinformation.
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Without actually having the parts in hand for an accurate measurement it is hard to state for fact, but as near as I can determine with that stock in a folded condition you would still exceed the 27" mark keeping the rifle NON restricted.
The only issues are that it folds the wrong way so the hinge which sticks out probably will most likely interfere with the charge handle.
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I was reading about these and I think you can actually put it on the the other side ifyou want, so you can have it fold the other way. Since the rifle dosen't function with the stock folded I don't see it folding the other way being issue.
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As long as the hinge protrudes on the right side of the lower, no problem that I can see as long as the stock does not interfere with the charge handles dust cover. Having the charge handle be stopped in travel by the hinge or a protrusion of the stock would be an operational issue.
IF someone wants to be the test ginea pig we have a gun here to try it on.
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The 1st 75 which have now sold out on pre-order will be the only 1s that have custom serial numbers as an option. We are planning to run just over 100 rifles total in this production run. Much more and the task becomes monumental to keep them all straight and correct to the customers options.
We will be running another production run of these rifles later in 2015 once these are out the door.
We still have about a dozen of the rifles still available, just none of the 1st 75 (Heritage Series) left.
It already has an frt# and will not have to go back. Also have you Seen the quality of atrs product??? Its just amazing. Here you have a great company doing their best to offer a new product which im confident will make the xcr look like junk. Shame some people have negative things to say about it.
As far as I can tell this thread is for people that are excited about this new product. And a place for the manufacture to give us status updates. I think the fact that a small (but reputable) Canadian company is bringing a new product to market is amazing and I support it 100%. What we need is more companies like this, taking the risk, and bringing new product to market. Awesome!!!
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- calgary alberta
Yes, we do need to send the RCMP a "production" rifle so that they can satisfy themselves that we have only made cosmetic changes from the prototype we initially submitted.
Bill Etter the RCMP boss guy told us this when we got the FRT number in the first place and also stated that the re-exam should only take a few weeks. We should be sending them the 1st production rifle in a week or so.
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No. I am not interested in government work. I have had some experience with government contracts in the past and just do not want to do that dance again.
I'm not trying to be negative but I would like to know what happens if the rcmp changes the status of this firearm once they have the finished product? From what it sounds like this is pretty unlikely but the main reason I think many of us have preordered is the fact that it is non restricted.
Is losing its non restricted status a possibility or something trolls brought up to hurt the sales of this rifle
Is losing its non restricted status a possibility or something trolls brought up to hurt the sales of this rifle
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- calgary alberta
Bahahhaahha - I'm reading this thread for rifle info.... specifically more pictures, but I got the added bonus of a bunch of ostensibly grown men b*tching at each other with more flair for drama and wounded self pride than any group of self-starving sleep deprived mentally and physically exhausted girls I've worked with.
Grow up, be polite, sort it out like adults or go put yourselves in no-internet time out until you can figure it out. There are enough problems coming from outside the shooting community that threaten us all... we don't need people flying off the handle or needling each other inside. Not knowing what's going on here, the only thing I can say is that ATRS may have lost his temper and stepped out of line, but I'm equally disappointed in anyone in law enforcement who is so self important and easily upset that they can't handle it... and frankly a little concerned.
So - pics this week?
Wally, the mods have been real busy cleaning up a ton of ATRS bashing on several threads lately all directly from from a couple of sources who finally made it on to my forum. Your assumption that I finally lost it, is correct.
Our plan this week is to have photos of the production rifle posted, so stay tuned. Hopefully the dramas subsides now.
I see that a whole bunch of postings have been removed by the vendor to move this thread back on track.
Everyone will stay on track from this point on. If anyone (including both the vendor and the members) fail to stay on track and observe the proper forum rules for the business forum and the forum rules in general, we will be holding people accountable for the side tracking.
If you have any personal discontent with the vendor on whatever issue or postings that have been removed by the vendor already, take it to private messaging.
Everyone will stay on track from this point on. If anyone (including both the vendor and the members) fail to stay on track and observe the proper forum rules for the business forum and the forum rules in general, we will be holding people accountable for the side tracking.
If you have any personal discontent with the vendor on whatever issue or postings that have been removed by the vendor already, take it to private messaging.
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- calgary alberta
The possibility is truly remote unless we make massive changes, so yes this is mostly trolls rearing their ugly heads to try and derail sales.
However THIS is a valid question.
As long as we do not change the operating system or make substantial changes between the prototype and the production rifles, the NON restricted classification will remain.
All we have done differently from the prototype and the production rifles is add a flared mag well, replace a front take down screw with a pin ala AR style rifles and improve the side charge mechanism so that it folds out of the way making the gun more sleek with less things to get caught up on.
We also greatly reduced the machine tooling marks and will be spending much more time making each production rifle look nice in so far as eliminating tooling marks.
None of these changes will make any difference in classification.
We do not intend to make any of these with barrels short enough to make for a restricted class simply so as to avoid any possible problems.
Once we get the final paperwork back from the RCMP lab, we will be providing copies to every client, posting it on our website and making it possible to download the info to smart phones so as to provide as much support to everyone as is possible in the event they are challenged by LE as to the class of the rifle.
I expect it will take LE some time to get used to the fact that there are some new rifles, not just ours, available to the public that are different than the standard wood stocked rifles that have been the norm for NR class firearms. Hopefully the problems with the transition can be helped with having this info readily available to all.
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Awesome - thanks guys. I only checked the site at the very beginning so must've missed it. With another weight at any length other than 20 inch for the heavy it should be possible to break down weight/inch on these roughly so people can figure out what each barrel will weigh at any length.
light contour - 0.135 lbs/in.
varmint contour - 0.175 lbs/in.
heavy contour - 0.235 lbs/in.
Obviously this is just a rough estimation as it does not take into account barrel taper, and it assumes one inch of steel at the muzzle is the same weight as one inch at the chamber (which is not the case).
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- calgary alberta
I did not see anything to the effect that ARs or mags have had any changes mentioned. I guess we will have to wait for full details.
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